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Old 10-23-2015, 07:57 AM   #1
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Flames: 1-5-0, 7th in Pacific, 14th in West, 29th in NHL.

Red Wings: 3-3-0, 5th in Atlantic, 10th in East, 19th in NHL.


Well, when you're 2nd last in the league you have to change something. The team that is last changed their coach. I don't think we were about to do something like that just 6 games into the season, especially when your coach is coming off a Jack Adams winning season, but it is funny how often the Adams award is a curse to the coach the next season. Bob obviously deserved it last year, but I almost wish he hadn't won it. Clearly the awards and praise have made this team complacent. I guess when you build your identity on being the underdog and having an Us vs. The World mentality, when you start to have success that identity suffers. Now that the team is expected to be competitive, and possibly be a playoff team, they need to find a new identity. No longer can they be the young upstart club that nobody expects to win. They now have to deal with expectations and pressures. This is never easy in an intense hockey market like Calgary, but they've been able to step up to the plate in the past, so there's really no reason they can't do it again. I still believe this is the right coaching staff and leadership group to get the job done.

So what do you do if you can't do the quick fix of firing a coach? Well, you have to look at personnel. Karri Ramo was put through waivers and sent to Stockton, presumably to work on his game, but I think it might be for good. I remember Treliving saying the same things about Setoguchi when he sent him down. That leaves Hiller and Ortio to man the net. Management and the coaches don't think it's appropriate to put a young and inexperienced goalie (at the NHL level) out there in front of a team that is pretty much a shambles, and I agree. So it's up to Hiller to stop enough pucks to help the team get things back on track.

Brett Kulak was returned to Stockton with Treliving saying that the league was "starting to catch up to him". Jakub Nakladal was recalled, and Ladislav Smid has been deemed ready to play for tonight's game. Not sure which defenseman enters the lineup, but my money is on Smid only because of his experience and the loyalty of Hartley. Hopefully he can add some solid d-zone play that this team has been sorely lacking so far. The Flames rank 3rd worst in GA/G with 4.17. That's a far cry from last year where the defensive numbers were at least on the league average.

It's hard to win if you aren't generating much offense either. The Flames rank 25th in GF/G with just 2.00. That's not going to get the job done, even if you have Carey Price in net. The offense has to start coming from all players, not just Gaudreau and Monahan. The Flames are also 3rd worst in SF/G with just 24.8. Compared to the 31.7 they give up per game, that's a bad differential.

One of the only teams that has fewer shots per game than the Flames is the Red Wings, at a minuscule 22.7. Yet the Wings have scored 2.67 GF/G so far. That's is a sparkling shooting percentage to start the year at well over 10%. It's not because of the power play either, operating at just 10.5% so far. The Wings have also given up more shots against per game than the Flames at 32.5. Sure, they're 3-3-0, but they had the good fortune of drawing the Maple Leafs once and the Hurricanes twice to start the year. They've lost their last 3 in a row, and look about as effective as the Flames right now.

With both teams struggling, it will come down to who is more desperate for a win. You have to think that the Flames will have more desperation, but I worry that they're so fragile that any early setback will result in a loss. The Red Wings aren't playing that well, but they're a professional group that always puts in an honest effort. This one could go either way.

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DeKeyser-Green
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Old 10-23-2015, 08:06 AM   #2
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Old 10-23-2015, 08:07 AM   #3
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From practice yesterday:

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#Flames forwards at practice:
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Goaltenders:
Hiller (in starter's net)
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Old 10-23-2015, 08:10 AM   #4
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Something about the Wings always brings out the best in the Flames, Hopefully tonight is the night they get rolling.
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Old 10-23-2015, 08:12 AM   #5
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Datsyuk is primed to make the Flames D look like pylons with the way they've been standing around looking quite useless so far
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Old 10-23-2015, 08:15 AM   #6
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Hopefully this is the game where it clicks for the team and they get it done
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Old 10-23-2015, 08:15 AM   #7
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I'm scared by those defense pairings... Gio better be ready to play 30 minutes
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Old 10-23-2015, 08:17 AM   #8
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Datsyuk is primed to make the Flames D look like pylons with the way they've been standing around looking quite useless so far
That would be a amazing thing to do from the press box. Datsyuk is still on the IR and wont be in tonights game.
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Hopefully Gio looks better without Hamilton on his line. I knew Hammy was getting demoted, but not to the 3rd line. Hopefully a wakeup call that he needs to be more engaged in the game.

I think we'll see Hudler get up for this one and show his former team that he's still got it. At least I really hope..
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Song's about soccer, but the sentiment is there and it's fun. Anything to break this slide:

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I'm scared by those defense pairings... Gio better be ready to play 30 minutes
Seriously. That Russell-Engelland pairing is going to be like:



Hiller is going to need to bring his A-game.
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Come on boys.... really need a win to get something (anything) going.

I'm really nervous to see Smid... I probably like him more than most, but having no game experience for so long scares the crap out of me. Really thought a conditioning stint could have done wonders... Hope he proves me wrong and has a good showing.

Prediction.... 4-3 Flames... Jooris, Hamilton, Frolik and Hudler. GFG!!!
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Old 10-23-2015, 09:37 AM   #13
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I have noticed a trend over the last season or so. Regardless of what I write, the amount of thanks I get correlates directly to how the team is doing, or what the general mood is among the fan base.

So far today...one person thanked the OP. Pretty, pretty, pretty grim.
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I like the D-pairings for this game. Time to switch it up.

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Hopefully Gio looks better without Hamilton on his line. I knew Hammy was getting demoted, but not to the 3rd line. Hopefully a wakeup call that he needs to be more engaged in the game.

I think we'll see Hudler get up for this one and show his former team that he's still got it. At least I really hope..
I think he's too engaged. Making terrible decisions on when to pinch or join the rush.

I'm optimistic that they win today. I think today is the day we turn the tide and hopefully string some wins together.

I don't have tickets to the game so at worst, it probably won't be a blow out like the 3 games I've been to so far.
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Am I the only one who would much rather have Nakladal in than Smid?
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Am I the only one who would much rather have Nakladal in than Smid?
You are definitely not. Putting Smid in right now defies common sense.
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Looks like Smid is confirmed tonight:

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