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Old 05-20-2023, 04:31 PM   #2481
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Game is as good as done. Jays don't stand a chance of scoring a runner from 2nd.
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Old 05-20-2023, 04:33 PM   #2482
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Hopefully they tie it before Varsho is up. I will happily eat crow if he can get a big hit here tho
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Old 05-20-2023, 04:36 PM   #2483
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Jeez Jays. Can you mugs lay off the high fastballs out of the zone?
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Old 05-20-2023, 04:39 PM   #2484
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Biggio is useless even on the bases.
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Old 05-20-2023, 04:39 PM   #2485
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Freaking mugs...
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Old 05-20-2023, 04:41 PM   #2486
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Varsh0for5 seems like a good nickname for this guy.

This team has some issues. Humbling few weeks for this group
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Old 05-20-2023, 04:41 PM   #2487
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Wow. Bunch of sucks.
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Old 05-20-2023, 04:41 PM   #2488
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Haha. They didn't even move him over to 3rd.

I think Bautista only threw 3 actual strikes but the Jays swung at everything outside the zone.

Bunch of useless bums.
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Old 05-20-2023, 04:42 PM   #2489
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Absolutely pathetic.
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Old 05-20-2023, 04:45 PM   #2490
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Maybe they actually make a worthwhile trade during the season for once. This team does not have the batting depth nor good enough bullpen to be elite. Potential is there but this group needs several additions. We shall see
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Old 05-20-2023, 04:45 PM   #2491
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I am done watching these underachieving losers for awhile!

What a waste of another lead.

This team is all hope and no results!
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Old 05-20-2023, 04:46 PM   #2492
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Not a good stretch against teams that they have no choice in finishing ahead of in 4 months.
They are missing some swagger IMO. It can't be all Vlad, and last year it was also guys like Gurrieal and Hernandez that had that element that isn't around now it seems.
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Old 05-20-2023, 04:49 PM   #2493
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Not a good stretch against teams that they have no choice in finishing ahead of in 4 months.
They are missing some swagger IMO. It can't be all Vlad, and last year it was also guys like Gurrieal and Hernandez that had that element that isn't around now it seems.
Chapmans scorching hot start hid the flaws of this lineup early on. He was always going to come back to earth and other guys have not gotten going. Varsho has been absolutely horrific, Vlad’s power is down and Bichette is now in a slump. I hope Varsho turns it around because that trade is looking terrible.
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I think the hitting will likely come around but the bullpen is going to remain a serious problem for this team. They have a lot of arms that are solid 7th inning guys for other teams but Garcia, Swanson, and Romano is not good enough to shut teams down regularly. They’ve traded away many of their top prospects and might continue to lack the assets to fundamentally address their problems.

Prediction: Barriera and Tiedemann (assuming he gets healthy again) are traded this season.

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Old 05-20-2023, 05:17 PM   #2495
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I think the hitting will likely come around but the bullpen is going to remain a serious problem for this team. They have a lot of arms that are solid 7th inning guys for other teams but Garcia, Swanson, and Romano is not good enough to shut teams down regularly. Theyve traded away many of their top prospects and might continue to lack the assets to fundamentally address their problems.

Prediction: Barriera and Tiedemann (assuming he gets healthy again) are traded this season.
If they deal Barriera or Tiedemann unless its for an elite talent would be a fireable offence. How are they supposed to produce a perennial contender if they do that stuff year after year and not get elite talent back? Anyway, I know its a prediction but as a fan Id be super pissed as Shapiro sold himself as someone who wanted to do that. Id honestly put the chances at under 10% of them going that direction with nothing but those two in the pipeline.
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Old 05-20-2023, 05:21 PM   #2496
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Do you know what is depressing?

After this series, the Jays head to the Trop for a 4 game series.
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Old 05-20-2023, 05:39 PM   #2497
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It's early but pretty concerning to see us dead last in the AL East.

This is not good.
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Old 05-20-2023, 05:48 PM   #2498
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Let’s face it. The batting lineup just has to sort itself out. I don’t think management has any intention of moving any of them. Three things I see them NEEDING to make changes to:
1) bench. Each and every one of them are junk. Espinal hasn’t cut it this season. They need to get legit pinch hitters
2) starter. Preferably a typical #3
3) long reliever or set up man
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Old 05-20-2023, 05:53 PM   #2499
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I also think Schneider has mismanaged speed. They have a nimble enough lineup to go a little more often. And if they don’t go, they could push pitchers a little by faking. Very irritating to see good talented players giving opposing pitchers the easy way out.
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Old 05-20-2023, 07:49 PM   #2500
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Very frustrating to watch this team the past few weeks
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