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Old 07-12-2022, 01:14 PM   #241
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The pictures are cool. I watched a quick video last night explaining what we were seeing. They talked a bit about gravitational lensing and how it stretches the images of the galaxies and how two streaks on either side of the cluster could actually be the same galaxy.

Images are not what I am excited about. Even learning about the early formation of galaxies is interesting, but not what I am looking forward to. What I really want to see is the spectrum data from exoplanets. I want to know if any of the water planets in the Trappist system have atmospheres with oxygen and water vapour. I want to know if they have seasonal changes in CO2. In short, I want evidence of life out there!
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I want to know if any of the water planets in the Trappist system have atmospheres with oxygen and water vapour. I want to know if they have seasonal changes in CO2. In short, I want evidence of life out there!
Yup, can't wait!

https://www.planetary.org/articles/j...ope-trappist-1

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According to the JWST Science Policy Group, over the next year, JWST will spend a full quarter of its time studying exoplanets, and 8.2% of its exoplanet observations staring at the distant star TRAPPIST-1. Claims are flying about discovering everything from thermal emission, signatures of water, and even signs of life on the planets orbiting TRAPPIST-1.
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Old 07-12-2022, 01:48 PM   #243
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For a bit of context NASA was not going to step on any teams of scientists' toes by pointing this telescope at any of the "cool stuff". I'd like to think of it as a thunder dome style battle between the scientists' to get time on this telescope because its going to be printing out Nobel prizes for the next 20+ years long after it has run out of fuel and is decommissioned and/or replaced.
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Old 07-12-2022, 01:51 PM   #244
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If I remember correctly the Webb has had all of it's time already booked and scheduled for its lifespan.
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Old 07-12-2022, 02:37 PM   #245
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https://imgsli.com/MTE2Mzgy

Slider Comparison tool of the level of improvement in the image over Hubble.

Incredible detail.
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https://webb.nasa.gov/content/multimedia/images.html

Findings like this are going to be really interesting, especially when more teams get their hands on the telescope for their turn to point it at something they’re studying:

Some info on WASP-96b
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WASP-96b is a gas giant exoplanet. Its mass is 0.48 Jupiters. It is 0.0453 AU from the class G star WASP-96, which it orbits every 3.4 days. It is about 1120 light-years away from Earth, in the constellation Phoenix. It was discovered in 2013 by the Wide Angle Search for Planets (WASP).
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Old 07-12-2022, 03:13 PM   #247
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Slider Comparison tool of the level of improvement in the image over Hubble.

Incredible detail.
Yeah, I'm not sure how someone could say the JWST isn't a big improvement over Hubble. The level of detail in this image is significantly better.
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Old 07-12-2022, 03:26 PM   #248
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Old 07-12-2022, 03:45 PM   #249
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I might have to dress up as the JWST for Halloween...
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Yeah, I'm not sure how someone could say the JWST isn't a big improvement over Hubble. The level of detail in this image is significantly better.
It’s easy when you believe that scientists just threw it into the sky having no idea what it would do or provide us with, let alone having that information available for 20 years, so you made up a bunch of hopes in your mind that would be cool but aren’t physically possible with todays tech.
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Old 07-12-2022, 03:52 PM   #251
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Yeah, I'm not sure how someone could say the JWST isn't a big improvement over Hubble. The level of detail in this image is significantly better.
Perhaps because we're seeing different images claimed to be Hubble's and in the one on the slider it is edited to look totally janky compared to the other photo posted by Nammer where the differences between Hubble and JW aren't as pronounced?
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Perhaps because we're seeing different images claimed to be Hubble's and in the one on the slider it is edited to look totally janky compared to the other photo posted by Nammer where the differences between Hubble and JW aren't as pronounced?
The one on the right by nammer? That’s the infrared image… the primary purpose of the JWST.


Hubble image link… not edited as you claim. That’s what it looked like for Hubble. https://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/imag...ature_443.html
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The one on the right by nammer? That’s the infrared image… the primary purpose of the JWST.


Hubble image link… not edited as you claim. That’s what it looked like for Hubble. https://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/imag...ature_443.html
Wait, WTF? That Nammer image is both JWST?
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Wait, WTF? That Nammer image is both JWST?
Correct.
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Correct.
I see. I thought one half was JWST and the other half was Hubble. That mistake certainly colours a lot of what I have said throughout this thread.
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Old 07-12-2022, 04:22 PM   #256
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You can make up for it with a “Telescopes are a waste, they should all be converted into bongs” thread. Which I would totally read.
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Old 07-12-2022, 07:51 PM   #259
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I wanted to see an image of 2 aliens having sex. This has been a major letdown.
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Old 07-12-2022, 10:00 PM   #260
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I watched Nova last week about stars - Trappist-1 will burn for a very long time, while the universe goes dark:

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TRAPPIST-1 is expected to shine for ten trillion years—about 700 times longer than the present age of the Universe—while the Sun will leave the main sequence (run out of hydrogen[i]) in a few billion years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRAPPI...period_and_age

Also, the planets there are likely tidally locked. Might be “lousy” for life:

https://www.futurity.org/trappist-1-...-zone-2040722/
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