2020 Bundesliga/Bundesliga 2 Re-Start Thread

[Hockey-and_stuff]

Both yesterdays match and today's were on the OneSoccer YouTube channel today. I couldn't find it on the OS app proper.

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[Hockey-and_stuff]

Originally Posted by shermanator

OneSoccer is desperate for content right now, so I can understand why they picked up the rights. Even with all their content available, it's not worth the price they charge.

I got a "free" year with my season ticket package and I'm still finding it hard to log in. I did rewatch the Al Classico the other day, as I missed that game live last season.

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[Howie_16]

Good article to read as we enter the final three rounds of the season.

https://amp.dw.com/en/bundesliga-the...mpression=true

[cheevers]

With Werder playing Bayern today, and the guaranteed loss that comes with it, my hope is that we lose by less goals than Mainz to Dortmund and Dusseldorf to RB. Then the big match Saturday vs Mainz with a chance to escape the relegation spot.

[Howie_16]

Need all 3 points today. A favor from Furth in defeating Heidenheim would also be appreciated.



https://www.hsv.de/en/news/relegatio...the-way-of-hsv

[devo22]

sorry Howie.

Watching Hamburg and Stuttgart in the "battle" for promotion is like that South Park episode where they really don't want to make the softball playoffs and try their hardest to lose. It's probably incredibly hilarious to watch if you don't have a horse in that race, but if you do ... ouch.

[Howie_16]

Originally Posted by devo22

sorry Howie.

Watching Hamburg and Stuttgart in the "battle" for promotion is like that South Park episode where they really don't want to make the softball playoffs and try their hardest to lose. It's probably incredibly hilarious to watch if you don't have a horse in that race, but if you do ... ouch.

So true!

#HamburgerIdiots

[cheevers]

Damn Neuer, we were so close.

[M*A*S*H 4077]

8 straight! Feels especially good since they were in 7th before sacking Kovac. Hansi Flick has done an incredible job to get Bayern playing at such a high level again.

Unfortunately Davies got sent off for a pretty weak second yellow in the second half. But seeing as he should’ve been sent off in the first half for a straight red (kicked out at a Bremen player, only got a yellow card) one cant complain at all.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by cheevers

Damn Neuer, we were so close.

That was a great sequence but yeah, Neuer robbed you.

[devo22]

didn't think that second yellow was weak at all. Davies absolutely has to make that foul or the whole side of the pitch is wide open ... it was Comans fault and Davies had to the take the fall there. A yellow everyday, but one you have to take.

too bad for Bremen, hoped they could at least get a point out of this. Will probably go down to the wire between them and Düsseldorf.

[cheevers]

Stupid Dortmund, this is exactly why you are no where close to being competition to Bayern.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by cheevers

Stupid Dortmund, this is exactly why you are no where close to being competition to Bayern.

Say what you will about Bayern, but they're a well run club with attention to detail and planning.

[cheevers]

Originally Posted by Locke

Say what you will about Bayern, but they're a well run club with attention to detail and planning.

They really are, looking at there transfer activity and who they have gotten and the fees is staggering. They definitely benefit that every Bundesliga player wants to play for them, allowing them to poach them for nothing or almost nothing. But they rarely make poor buys, the last big one that did not really work out was Renato Sanches and I think they recouped a lot of the fee when they sold him.

I just wish more players would stay with their clubs and try to fight to win the title against Bayern then simply just joining them.

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by cheevers

They really are, looking at there transfer activity and who they have gotten and the fees is staggering. They definitely benefit that every Bundesliga player wants to play for them, allowing them to poach them for nothing or almost nothing. But they rarely make poor buys, the last big one that did not really work out was Renato Sanches and I think they recouped a lot of the fee when they sold him.

I just wish more players would stay with their clubs and try to fight to win the title against Bayern then simply just joining them.

[cheevers]

And Red Bull can do one too. Trash, bought history, crap drink "club". What a terrible day.

[devo22]

well it's tough. They have a huge pull in Germany and they'll use every dirty trick in the playbook too. Lewandowski, Goretzka, Nübel ... numerous examples where they'll happily convince a player to run down his contract and join for free, contacting the player way in advance and shafting the other club. Everybody in Germany knows it and nobody can do #### about it.

It's grim too for everybody hoping for a different champion any time soon. Dortmund had its window now these past two seasons where Bayern looked vulnerable at this, struggling with Kovac on the bench and doing a bit of a squad rebuild post-Robben/Ribery. But they've thrown it away with an overwhelmed coach themselves, and now they are set to lose two of their three superstars (Hakimi and Sancho) this summer with Haland probably following next year. Only hope is Leipzig at this point, but I'm not sure they can step up another level to actually harm Bayern.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by devo22

well it's tough. They have a huge pull in Germany and they'll use every dirty trick in the playbook too. Lewandowski, Goretzka, Nübel ... numerous examples where they'll happily convince a player to run down his contract and join for free, contacting the player way in advance and shafting the other club. Everybody in Germany knows it and nobody can do #### about it.

It's grim too for everybody hoping for a different champion any time soon. Dortmund had its window now these past two seasons where Bayern looked vulnerable at this, struggling with Kovac on the bench and doing a bit of a squad rebuild post-Robben/Ribery. But they've thrown it away with an overwhelmed coach themselves, and now they are set to lose two of their three superstars (Hakimi and Sancho) this summer with Haland probably following next year. Only hope is Leipzig at this point, but I'm not sure they can step up another level to actually harm Bayern.

And Leipzig are likely going to get torn apart at the seams. Werner is already gone, who knows who goes next.

Are they really 'Dirty Tricks' when they're allowed and a common part of doing business in the Bundesliga?

[devo22]

well they lost Keita too and were just fine. They have a unique advantage with RB Salzburg basically being their farm team, plus their scouting network is amazing ... and they actually have the ambition to win stuff. Losing Werner is a huge blow, make no mistake - but they've always planned ahead and I'm sure they'll get a good replacement.

and nah, those dirty tricks are not allowed. Hasn't exactly stopped them there seems to be an acceptance that Bayern can do everything they want. Feel free to fawn over their planning and whatnot (and I understand there's a lot of interest here because of Alphonso Davies becoming a superstar), but let's not pretend there's really a level playing field here.

and I know it might come across as if I'm just blindly hating on them. Truth is, none of those top clubs are all that appealing to me. Bayern are the big bullies that until recently had a convicted felon as president. Dortmund feel a bit like hypocrites with the image they want to convey, trying to hide the fact that they are a money-driven PLC after all. Plus they seem to be happy with being more of a glorified feeder club than an actual contender, which pisses me off. And it's not hard to dislike Leipzig with their plastic "history" and their little farm team right in front of my doorstep

I just want different champions every now and then, that's all. The status quo is terrible for the league.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by devo22

well they lost Keita too and were just fine. They have a unique advantage with RB Salzburg basically being their farm team, plus their scouting network is amazing ... and they actually have the ambition to win stuff. Losing Werner is a huge blow, make no mistake - but they've always planned ahead and I'm sure they'll get a good replacement.

and nah, those dirty tricks are not allowed. Hasn't exactly stopped them there seems to be an acceptance that Bayern can do everything they want. Feel free to fawn over their planning and whatnot (and I understand there's a lot of interest here because of Alphonso Davies becoming a superstar), but let's not pretend there's really a level playing field here.

and I know it might come across as if I'm just blindly hating on them. Truth is, none of those top clubs are all that appealing to me. Bayern are the big bullies that until recently had a convicted felon as president. Dortmund feel a bit like hypocrites with the image they want to convey, trying to hide the fact that they are a money-driven PLC after all. Plus they seem to be happy with being more of a glorified feeder club than an actual contender, which pisses me off. And it's not hard to dislike Leipzig with their plastic "history" and their little farm team right in front of my doorstep

I just want different champions every now and then, that's all. The status quo is terrible for the league.

Its not a lot different from Spain, Italy and even England for the longest time. The team with the most resources that is willing to push the envelope tends to win.

What I like about Bayern is that they are still intrinsically German. They plan and they have contingency plans.

This was Bayern under transition both in the squad and managerially and nobody stepped up to take it from them because they had an underlying quality that could get the job done.