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Old 05-18-2022, 04:55 PM   #241
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Old 05-18-2022, 04:57 PM   #242
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Can I have a night off from a brick-wall oppo goalie, please? Smitty gives up a goal in the first shot. Pulled after 3 goals on 5 shots. Just do it!
As I posted in that other thread....yikes

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Old 05-18-2022, 04:58 PM   #243
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Because the discussion is about top end talent when it comes to forwards, and I specifically said from there on down it's pretty much a wash

Looking at the top 12 forward for each team:

Edm Cgy differential (+ is better for Edm, - is better for CGY)


123 115 8
110 104 6
54 82 -28
50 55 -5
41 39 2
39 33 6
36 32 4
26 23 3
22 23 -1
21 21 0
19 16 3
11 10 1


Almost to a man, there isn't much there, unless of course you compare the 3rd best forward (Lindhom vs Hyman). So it's a wash pretty much everywhere, but the Flames have 1 BIG overmatch

For Dmen it looks like this:

Edm Cgy differential (+ is better for Edm, - is better for CGY)

43 50 -7
41 48 -7
35 31 4
28 28 0
21 22 -1
9 17 -8


So everyone in Edmonton talks about how the Flames are overmatched in high end talent.
Well we have 3 defenseman who outmatch their counterpart to the same extent that McDavid and Draisaitl outmatch Gaudreau and Tkachuk.

Match up top to bottom, it's pretty close to a wash, with the big exception being the Oilers have 2 clear cut first liners, and the Flames have 3.

We keep seeing arguments that the Oilers have better top end talent.
Well they have the best and 3rd best players (Point wise), but the Flames have 3 legitimate stars.

We also see arguments that the Oilers have better depth.
At best it's a wash, and if you stop at the only two clear cut stars for the Oilers as your cutoff for top end talent, then Lindholm is a depth scorer, and the Oilers have nothing to match him.

Does this mean we'll win for sure?
Nope, but it means anyone who is arguing that the Oilers are the clear favorite in any team category (with respect to scoring), clearly isn't looking at the numbers.
Anyone arguing that the oilers have a better offence should be directed to the goals for column in the standings. And for good measure, told to have look at the column immediately to its right.
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He is supposedly playing. Remember, he is better than every other player even at 60% efficiency.
Can we get away with chanting "Why - so - Pis - sy?!?" like we did with Ricci's Ugly?
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Can I have a night off from a brick-wall oppo goalie, please? Smitty gives up a goal in the first shot. Pulled after 3 goals on 5 shots. Just do it!
No! Leave him in...
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Old 05-18-2022, 05:01 PM   #246
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No! Leave him in...
ya, if that happens then this should be the chant, "Leave him in!, Leave him in!"
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Old 05-18-2022, 05:07 PM   #247
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ya, if that happens then this should be the chant, "Leave him in!, Leave him in!"
Of course better to leave him in if he's playing badly. But I think it's more damaging to his psycho psyche to pull him. Will pay dividends later in the series.
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Old 05-18-2022, 05:10 PM   #248
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My first taste of a Battle of Alberta since I was converted in 2004. So pumped. Just wanted to post on this glorious day. Go Flames Go!
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Old 05-18-2022, 05:13 PM   #249
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Of course better to leave him in if he's playing badly. But I think it's more damaging to his psycho psyche to pull him. Will pay dividends later in the series.
The long game. Okay. I can dig it.

I just want to blow as many pucks past Smith as we can.
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Old 05-18-2022, 05:14 PM   #250
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It's the long deep breath before we plunge into war.

We've come to it, at last. The great battle of our time.

I love the smell of napalm im the morning, smells like......Victory.

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Old 05-18-2022, 05:16 PM   #251
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Watched a lot of Tampa/Florida...by any standard that game was a "no-hitter". It just was not heavy physical at all. Saw the first period of Colorado/St Lou and Colorado was throwing a bit of weight around.

We know Sutter and this team will lean on the Oilers as much as they can without taking penalties. Of all people I heard Mark Spector point out its not just a size disparity but all 4 of Calgary's tough guys are 4th liners and 3rd pairings where they should be. He said Nurse is tough but play 25 minutes a night so if Ritchie takes Nurse out Calgary wins. Kanes pretty tough but same diff hes an 18 minute top 6 guy they cant afford to loose. if he scraps Lucic Calgary wins.

If you haven't heard Spectors is taking Calgary to win!
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Old 05-18-2022, 05:18 PM   #252
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Can we get away with chanting "Why - so - Pis - sy?!?" like we did with Ricci's Ugly?

Holy that would be amazing!!


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Old 05-18-2022, 05:21 PM   #253
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why so pissy would go down as a hall of fame chant at the dome.
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Watched a lot of Tampa/Florida...by any standard that game was a "no-hitter". It just was not heavy physical at all. Saw the first period of Colorado/St Lou and Colorado was throwing a bit of weight around.

We know Sutter and this team will lean on the Oilers as much as they can without taking penalties. Of all people I heard Mark Spector point out its not just a size disparity but all 4 of Calgary's tough guys are 4th liners and 3rd pairings where they should be. He said Nurse is tough but play 25 minutes a night so if Ritchie takes Nurse out Calgary wins. Kanes pretty tough but same diff hes an 18 minute top 6 guy they cant afford to loose. if he scraps Lucic Calgary wins.

If you haven't heard Spectors is taking Calgary to win!

I think we all know Tkachuk is going to become Besties with Kane and McDavid.

Who he focuses on depends on who he gets the reaction from.
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Mike Smith is either lying or stupid saying that its "just another series".

Maybe both?
Lying.

Over/Under on him getting into some scrums tonight?
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Lying.

Over/Under on him getting into some scrums tonight?
Over/Under on spears to the groin?
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Watched a lot of Tampa/Florida...by any standard that game was a "no-hitter". It just was not heavy physical at all. Saw the first period of Colorado/St Lou and Colorado was throwing a bit of weight around.

We know Sutter and this team will lean on the Oilers as much as they can without taking penalties. Of all people I heard Mark Spector point out its not just a size disparity but all 4 of Calgary's tough guys are 4th liners and 3rd pairings where they should be. He said Nurse is tough but play 25 minutes a night so if Ritchie takes Nurse out Calgary wins. Kanes pretty tough but same diff hes an 18 minute top 6 guy they cant afford to loose. if he scraps Lucic Calgary wins.

If you haven't heard Spectors is taking Calgary to win!
Spector also had a really good article on Sportsnet about the BOA today. Most enjoyable one I've read actually.

I predict this BOA will prove to be a unifying force for Alberta, with Oilers fans finally admitting en masse that their team is no good.
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Lying.

Over/Under on him getting into some scrums tonight?
I hope like hell Tkachuk is already livin rent free in Smiths cranium.

If so....it wont take long to ignite. A couple whacks, then the blocker punches...and then Flames profit.

I did hear on one of the hundred things on the radio today...maybe it was Seravelli this morning with Boomer....that he was told officials will call the 1st guy every time to start this thing and retaliations would be let go (unless egregious im assuming) to avoid the 4 on 4 stuff and send the message to stick to hockey.

See if/how long it lasts...i like the idea behind it but think implementation will be difficult.
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i am weirdly not nervous at all after going through a game 7 against oettinger.
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Great to hear Maher on the radio today.

As always, Go Flames!
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