[News] Canucks sign Benning to extension

[Classic_Sniper]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

This is not a fact. The Canucks are one of the worst teams in the NHL and not remotely competitive.

Benning will prove his mettle this summer with the Sedins, Baertschi, Granlund, and Virtanen entering free agency. The Canucks have only one defenseman signed past next season.

If you remember, the Canucks were sitting in a playoff position neck and neck with us around the beginning of December before they suffered a ton of injuries to almost their entire top 6 forward group and top defensemen. That’s relatively competitive for a rebuilding group. Benning has made some good moves and they’ve drafted some nice prospects as of late,m. I personally don’t think he’s laughably bad as many may think.

[d_phaneuf]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Why is he not on the Olympic team?

I am not saying he is going to be a bust but at 6’2 160lbs he could be years away from making an impact. Considering Sam Bennett is a certified bust at 21 the clock is ticking on Petterson

The clock is ticking???

He was drafted 7 months ago and is putting up all time SHL stats

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

Yeah, at least the Canucks can draft reasonably well.

They're not good with free agent contracts under Benning, nor have they convincingly won any trades, but at least they can draft.

The Oilers can't do ANY of those things well.

Burrows trade was a slam dunk at the time and looks even better now

Sven trade was a win

Granlund trade was a win, looked better last year but still more valuable than shinkaruk

Gotten good picks for Bieksa, garrison, lack etc.

Gave up picks for guys that didn't work out like vey,

His only real bad trade was gudbranson, the rest are all middle-of-the-road

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

He was literally drafted last summer. What the heck are you talking about?

Cali panthers fan had it right. Benning can draft, but can't sign players. The Sbisa and Dorsett contracts were insanity that he got out of by luck, and he looks like he might go right back and do it again this summer with Gudbranson. Trades have been mostly a wash. Basically, the guy would be great to have in your organization... as a head scout.

I was being purposely over dramatic. Inquewhy he is not on their Olympic team if he is the best prospect not in the nhl. Then just took a shot at the general consensus some have that Bennett is a bust at 21.

Petterson needs to fill out and he could be a stud. Then again he could be the next MPS who did great overseas as a prospect and failed in the nhl.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by d_phaneuf

The clock is ticking???

He was drafted 7 months ago and is putting up all time SHL stats



Burrows trade was a slam dunk at the time and looks even better now

Sven trade was a win

Granlund trade was a win, looked better last year but still more valuable than shinkaruk

Gotten good picks for Bieksa, garrison, lack etc.

Gave up picks for guys that didn't work out like vey,

His only real bad trade was gudbranson, the rest are all middle-of-the-road

Sorry bad joke about Bennett being a bust.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Classic_Sniper

If you remember, the Canucks were sitting in a playoff position neck and neck with us around the beginning of December before they suffered a ton of injuries to seemingly their entire top 6 and top defensemen. That’s relatively competitive for a rebuilding group...

That was lightning in a bottle. Derek Dorsett was leading the team in goals for the first several weeks of the season, and Sven Baertschi was riding a 25% SP. It was obviously unsustainable to anyone who was paying attention.

[d_phaneuf]

He's great at drafting

His trading isnt a huge net gain or lose, nothing they have moved out has turned out great for the other team

In FA he's been bad, although if they move the other older guys like Vanek this year, maybe Gagner next year etc. Those signings look better since they have a purpose, but if he doesn't it's huge waste

Overall he's probably an average GM who gets a bad reputation because he's a horrible public speaker

Don't think this is a great move, but it's not a bad one either, I also wouldn't be surprised if he's gone after 2 years

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

This is not a fact. The Canucks are one of the worst teams in the NHL and not remotely competitive.

Benning will prove his mettle this summer with the Sedins, Baertschi, Granlund, and Virtanen entering free agency. The Canucks have only one defenseman signed past next season.

Aren't all of them RFA's except the Sedins?

[Classic_Sniper]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

That was lightning in a bottle. Derek Dorsett was leading the team in goals for the first several weeks of the season, and Sven Baertschi was riding a 25% SP. It was obviously unsustainable to anyone who was paying attention.

Facing that many significant long term injuries to an already shallow roster definitely hurt them. I don’t even like the Canucks, but I can show them some respect where it’s due. It’s not like they’ve taken advantage of lottery wins and being gifted generational players like the Oilers. Who knows where they’d be if they didn’t face all those injuries at the time and had better goaltending like we’ve had from Mike Smith and David Rittich. Elias Pettersson looks like a heck of pick too and I’m not looking forward to playing against him and Brock Boeser for the next decade.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Not sure Petterson is going to pan out.

Lol. Really?

[Oil Stain]

Originally Posted by d_phaneuf

He's great at drafting

His trading isnt a huge net gain or lose, nothing they have moved out has turned out great for the other team

In FA he's been bad, although if they move the other older guys like Vanek this year, maybe Gagner next year etc. Those signings look better since they have a purpose, but if he doesn't it's huge waste

Overall he's probably an average GM who gets a bad reputation because he's a horrible public speaker

Don't think this is a great move, but it's not a bad one either, I also wouldn't be surprised if he's gone after 2 years

If he's great at drafting and not good at trading, free agency, or speaking with the press then he should be a scout and not a GM.

But I don't really agree with giving GM's too much credit for a team's drafting record under their management unless he personally overhauled the drafting department.

Because the facts are a GM may not have even watched a game of a kid that his team drafts in the fourth round.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by jayswin

Lol. Really?

I mean it's possible he just can't deal with the transition to North America. It wouldn't be the first time a talented European player has failed to do that. But he's currently on pace to have somewhere around the 2nd best season in history by a U20 in the top Swedish league, roughly tied with Peter Forsberg, sandwiched in between Kent Nilsson and Thomas Gradin. That's pretty solid company.

[Mean Mr. Mustard]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

The Flames are 2/3 in their top-ten draft selections in that time. The Canucks are 1/4 so far.

The Canucks are 2/4 in that time. Horvat and Petterson look like great picks, Juolevi may be a good selection, but not the best player available and Virtanen looks like a bad pick right now.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Virtanen over Ehlers, Nylander, Larkin
Joulevi over Tkachuk, Keller

Not sure Petterson is going to pan out.

He gets love for Boeser rightfully so but I don’t think he has made the right picks with his high draft choices.

I guess anything can happen but that kid is as blue chip as it gets.

[theinfinitejar]

Thank you Jim.

[Enoch Root]

I am happy to see the extension.

Sure, he has made a couple draft picks that currently look good. But they still have to actually become players (not all do). And more importantly, there is MUCH more to GMing than just drafting. And Benning has shown absolutely nothing when it comes to contracts and trading.

So yes, please extend him!

[jayswin]

Do we know that the good drafting is even him? Maybe he's bad at signing, bad at trading and isn't heavily involved in drafting?

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by jayswin

Do we know that the good drafting is even him? Maybe he's bad at signing, bad at trading and isn't heavily involved in drafting?

Benning is a former highly regarded scout, who still prioritizes his own involvement in scouting—some might argue to the detriment of his other managerial responsibilities. He continues to be heavily involved in drafting.

[Geeoff]

I'm not sure that Benning has gotten any better. It's just that there are guys worse than him in Chiarelli, Dorion and Bergevin that are really stinking it up lately, so Jim doesn't look so dim in comparison.

[Monahammer]

Benning > Chiarelli but that's not saying much.

In terms of draft success- Boeser is definitely a homerun, Pettersson looks great but he was BPA when he was drafted so I don't know about giving him too much credit for it.
Let's see if his later round picks start turning out in spades. His trades seem 50/50 and his contract signings are pretty dismal.

Overall i think i would be displeased if I were a nucks fan!

[FlamesFanFromBC]

Overall I think he's done a good job with trades and drafting. They probably should have started the "rebuild" a couple years earlier than they did. I'm guessing that was probably an ownership mandate.

His worst move was probably the free agent signing of Loui Eriksson (6 yrs x 6M) which at the time made no sense for rebuilding team and looks ever worse now with his production over last couple seasons.