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Old 10-29-2021, 03:07 PM   #4261
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One of the other concerns I have is how the anti-vaxx sentiment will affect general vaccination 5 years from now. It was already starting to be a concerning issue before COVID.

And as such, what do we need to do in order to counter what I'd expect to be another drop in the percentage of parents who vaccinate their children.

Certainly don't think that shipping all non-vaccinated people out of the country is plausible, or anything short of the dumbest thing said in this thread.
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Old 10-29-2021, 03:20 PM   #4262
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This seems insane to me.

Vaccines can easily be replaced with daily rapid testing paid for by the user and get the same result for society. There are far less invasive ways of getting the same protective societal affect than mandatory vaccination
While I tend to agree with the sentiment, testing doesn’t give the same societal benefit. Testing doesn’t keep unvaccinated people from getting sick and potentially contributing to hospital overload, whereas vaccination does (to a much greater amount).

Testing helps to prevent spread to some extent, but still has a lesser effect on health system load.
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Thought experiment:

If a virus as deadly and contagious as, say, ebola was running rampant, and we had a safe vaccine that prevented its spread, and zero treatments after infection how would you feel about mandatory vaccines for that? Would you be fine with going in a shopping mall, knowing anyone in there could infect you something that would have you bleeding from every orifice and dead in 2 weeks with no cure? What measures would you use to protect society, if there was no way to eradicate the virus through isolation measures alone? Only the vaccine could prevent it?
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If the vaccine was safe & effective, why would be I be concerned about going to the mall if I were vaccinated?

The concern would be the same that it is now. Unvaccinated people overloading the ICUs and blowing up the health care system. There is no way to control that short of the mandates, which is why they are a necessary evil.
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Yes, sorry, that doesn't work...lets say the vaccine only works on males. Females require all males to be vaccinated to eradicate the virus.
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Certainly don't think that shipping all non-vaccinated people out of the country is plausible, or anything short of the dumbest thing said in this thread.
Fair comment, but what about putting them on an ice float and sending them out to sea?
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Yes, sorry, that doesn't work...lets say the vaccine only works on males. Females require all males to be vaccinated to eradicate the virus.
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Yes, sorry, that doesn't work...lets say the vaccine only works on males. Females require all males to be vaccinated to eradicate the virus.
How about at the same time we consider a virus that only would kill 1 person per year
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This seems insane to me.

Vaccines can easily be replaced with daily rapid testing paid for by the user and get the same result for society. There are far less invasive ways of getting the same protective societal affect than mandatory vaccination
What’s your point? OP asked what’s the most extreme thing you’d be ok with because a property manager wants vaccinated tenants.

Ask stupid questions, receive stupid answers.
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What’s your point? OP asked what’s the most extreme thing you’d be ok with because a property manager wants vaccinated tenants.

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That's so easy to out-stupid. How's this: every male tenant must shave at least one half of their scrotum. No restrictions on whether halves are defined as left and right or front and back, or even diagonals.
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I personally have almost no limits. If the government wanted to revoke their citizenship and deport them I'd be ecstatic. The unvaccinated have already shown they have no interest in contributing to or participating in a functioning society.
Gee, I wonder why those anti-vaxxers have a victim complex.
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Gee, I wonder why those anti-vaxxers have a victim complex.
Knowing a few of them myself, they incessantly whined about pretty much everything that society expected of them before COVID-19 ever became a thing. This isn't a chicken or egg problem, the victim complex definitely came first.
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That's so easy to out-stupid. How's this: every male tenant must shave at least one half of their scrotum. No restrictions on whether halves are defined as left and right or front and back, or even diagonals.
There really is nothing like a shorn scrotum. It’s breathtaking.
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While I tend to agree with the sentiment, testing doesn’t give the same societal benefit. Testing doesn’t keep unvaccinated people from getting sick and potentially contributing to hospital overload, whereas vaccination does (to a much greater amount).

Testing helps to prevent spread to some extent, but still has a lesser effect on health system load.
Daily rapid testing for all unvaxxed would pretty much eliminate spread.
I'd be all for it being required, at their expense. I'm not talking about for entrance to places/events. I'm thinking like a breathalyzer thing on a vehicle, before someone with previous impaired's can drive. If you are not vaxxed, your front door won't open until you are rapid tested as negative. I'd be happy with that.
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If you are not vaxxed, your front door won't open until you are rapid tested as negative. I'd be happy with that.
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Gee, I wonder why those anti-vaxxers have a victim complex.
They sort of kicked off this whole “we don’t care about other people” thing.
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There really is nothing like a shorn scrotum. It’s breathtaking.
What a gross image but I laughed. I refuse to thank that post though.
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I think I might go for a bite to eat at Madison’s or Gorilla Whale tomorrow to support them. Has anybody been during the protests?
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What a gross image but I laughed. I refuse to thank that post though.
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I think I might go for a bite to eat at Madison’s or Gorilla Whale tomorrow to support them. Has anybody been during the protests?
No, but I haven't been out to eat much at all since I can't even remember when... I really like Madison's though, so I will see if I can convince someone to join me there in the near future.
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