Coronavirus All Purpose Thread: The unnecessary Dumb Dumb 4th wave

[GGG]

Originally Posted by 81MC

To be fair...

Inactivity has been repeatedly and consistently identified as a serious risk factor for most of those Co-mos for years. Intentional blindness if anyone didn’t know. Who’d have thought that the same lifestyle choices that increase your risk for most severe negative health outcomes is also a significant risk factor for others?

The messaging was flawed from the start. We closed down parks and rec facilities for children, stopped people from having any community support for healthy living, and had masks distributed via fast food drive thru for gods sake.

Covid is serious. Poor lifestyle choices are more serious, whether it’s ‘contagious’ or not.

I have never seen more people outside and active then I did during Covid. Pathways, parks etc. I’d bet physical activity went up as a result of Covid.

Closing restaurants and movie theatres and encouraging outdoor gathering pushed people into activity.

Remember that physics activity is a brisk walk when these type of studies are done.

[Lubicon]

Originally Posted by GGG

I have never seen more people outside and active then I did during Covid. Pathways, parks etc. I’d bet physical activity went up as a result of Covid.

Closing restaurants and movie theatres and encouraging outdoor gathering pushed people into activity.

Remember that physics activity is a brisk walk when these type of studies are done.

I agree on the first part, the second may or may not be the case. Many organized sports were cancelled too which would offset the increase in other activity either partially or wholly. Who knows and it doesn't really matter, I agree that Covid pushed a whole group of people outdoors into activities that they never did before the pandemic.

[Sainters7]

And it forced regular gym-goers to get their cardio outside as well, when gyms shut down. I'm dreading this is going to happen again in the dead of winter..

[Azure]

Although the precise impact of the COVID-19 pandemic on Canadians’ physical activity is unknown and whether this impact varies by population group, a growing body of evidence suggests that an overall reduction in activity levels has occurred.

https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/.../00019-eng.htm

However, a substantial proportion of our sample showed persistent physical inactivity or decreasing physical activity. Given the well-established link between physical activity and health, persistent or increased physical inactivity is likely to have both immediate and long-term implications for people’s physical and mental health, as well as general wellbeing. More efforts are needed to promote physical activity during the pandemic and beyond.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-97065-1

Short-term changes in PA and SB in reaction to COVID-19 may become permanently entrenched, leading to increased risk of obesity, diabetes, and cardiovascular disease in children. Programmatic and policy strategies should be geared towards promoting PA and reducing SB over the next 12 months.

https://bmcpublichealth.biomedcentra...89-020-09429-3

Seeing more people outside doesn't mean jack squat.

Strange point to even try and argue.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Azure

https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/.../00019-eng.htm



https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-97065-1



https://bmcpublichealth.biomedcentra...89-020-09429-3

Seeing more people outside doesn't mean jack squat.

Strange point to even try and argue.

Thanks for linking this. I’m surprised by this.

The nature article is interesting in that it showed that it wasn’t a general decrease across the population but instead about 30% of people dropping activity while others maintained it

[Azure]

If you actively saw more people outside (compared to previous), then you were in a strange social circle.

Almost every single work or social related acquaintance I knew had limited physical activity the past 2 years compared to previous.

A LOT of people play sports because they hate the grind of the gym, working out at home or working out period. We literally shut it all down without thinking for a second what the implications would be. The social pressure of 'stay at home' was immense, and people weren't being encouraged to even go for a walk.

And that isn't even talking about the kids.

The other thing I wish we could study is the overall Vitamin D levels, and how the lunacy of 'sit on your couch and save the world' has directly resulted in more issues than the morons who purported it realized would happen.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Azure

If you actively saw more people outside (compared to previous), then you were in a strange social circle.

Almost every single work or social related acquaintance I knew had limited physical activity the past 2 years compared to previous.

A LOT of people play sports because they hate the grind of the gym, working out at home or working out period. We literally shut it all down without thinking for a second what the implications would be. The social pressure of 'stay at home' was immense, and people weren't being encouraged to even go for a walk.

And that isn't even talking about the kids.

The other thing I wish we could study is the overall Vitamin D levels, and how the lunacy of 'sit on your couch and save the world' has directly resulted in more issues than the morons who purported it realized would happen.

Not at all. Cross country skiing, hiking trails, and especially city parks, pathways and Nose Hill were far busier. When "Open for Summer" happened, it was a massive and pleasant drop off of people on Nose Hill. I think it's more likely that what Lubicon said though. People were forced to shift how they exercise. Most of the people making places busier were just exercising in different ways. And we also just had more people around, with no one taking vacations. I just think the bolded part of your response is odd given what I observed.

[opendoor]

Originally Posted by Azure

https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/.../00019-eng.htm

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-97065-1

https://bmcpublichealth.biomedcentra...89-020-09429-3

Seeing more people outside doesn't mean jack squat.

Strange point to even try and argue.

Virtually all of that evidence is from the first few months of the pandemic. Obviously activity levels were down in March-May 2020, but I don't know that that carried forward beyond that period to any significant degree. Mobility data generally shows an increase in walking over the baseline level from summer 2020 onwards, and Fitbit data showed while there was a slight decrease in active time, exercise intensity increased in the aggregate by late summer 2020.

[Buff]

Originally Posted by Tron_fdc

This really NEEDS to get more attention. Get off your devices and go for a walk or jog.

https://bjsm.bmj.com/content/55/19/1099

The US Physical Activity Guidelines established a goal of 150 min/week of MVPA (like a brisk walk) to maximise health benefits.3 This amount can be accrued in small units, making achievement of the guidelines within reach for nearly all people. Other studies have shown that on average, Americans have at least 4–6 hours each day of leisure time, the majority of which is devoted to sedentary activities, particularly electronic media.21 The findings here provide additional rationale and motivation for individuals to be more physically active, as well as for communities to design environments that are more conducive to routine PA,22 23 especially amid the COVID-19 pandemic.

We found that consistently meeting PA guidelines was strongly associated with a reduced odds for severe COVID-19 among infected adults. Specifically, when compared with those who reported being consistently inactive, those who were consistently meeting PA guidelines had lower odds of being hospitalised, requiring ICU admission and dying from COVID-19. Even activity levels that did not meet the PA guidelines were significantly associated with reduced odds of hospitalisation and death. It is notable that being consistently inactive was a stronger risk factor for severe COVID-19 outcomes than any of the underlying medical conditions and risk factors identified by CDC except for age and a history of organ transplant.1 In fact, physical inactivity was the strongest risk factor across all outcomes, compared with the commonly cited modifiable risk factors, including smoking, obesity, diabetes, hypertension, cardiovascular disease and cancer.

Does walking the dog count? Because that's all I have been able to do since first week of March or so.

[PepsiFree]

I’d never seen the couch sitting meme before now and feel that Nose Hill, Bowness, Fish Creek, and a bunch of areas in Banff and Kananaskis were busier than ever, anecdotally of course. Maybe it’s different in other provinces where something like Nose Hill is as nice as it gets, but here people definitely took advantage.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

I don’t know anyone who thought they had to stay home and were encouraged not to go out. There was no social pressure to stay at home among anyone I knew. Seemed like most people made the best of the situation and spent tons of time out walking or at parks.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Azure

If you actively saw more people outside (compared to previous), then you were in a strange social circle.

Almost every single work or social related acquaintance I knew had limited physical activity the past 2 years compared to previous.

A LOT of people play sports because they hate the grind of the gym, working out at home or working out period. We literally shut it all down without thinking for a second what the implications would be. The social pressure of 'stay at home' was immense, and people weren't being encouraged to even go for a walk.

And that isn't even talking about the kids.

The other thing I wish we could study is the overall Vitamin D levels, and how the lunacy of 'sit on your couch and save the world' has directly resulted in more issues than the morons who purported it realized would happen.

Manitoba? might be a different social circle than Calgary.

[jayswin]

Yeah, that's like all anyone in my social circles were talking about - What are we able to do get out during this time? Walking, running, biking, hiking. Everyone was doing as much of this as they could since they couldn't go chill at the usual bars/restaurants/sit down entertainment type of businesses.

Covid anxiety aside it was actually kind of a neat time for getting out and doing a lot of outdoor stuff we take for granted around Calgary.

[curves2000]

I know a lot is being made of exercise and all the benefits that come with it but more importantly is the level of actual "work" we do in our day to day lives in 2021.

There is an excellent book that was released many years ago, in the 70's I think. It was called "How to Survive Modern Technology".

Long story short it details how at the time, modern tech and lifestyles was causing unreal changes in our long term health. Specific advancement was having drastic effects on diseases long heart disease and diabetes. These diseases are not as common in a whole host of the world and a lot of it is lifestyle.

Manual labour and housework/ jobs that require it are very beneficial to our overall health. We don't think about it but basic things like mowing lawns, shoveling snow, actually sweeping and moping floors, scrubbing bathtubs etc is excellent work. Doing that on a regular basis just excellent health benefits.

Far too often I think we get a little too excited with sitting at a desk for hours a day, looking at screens, working out for an hour or so at a medium pace and than sitting down for the remainder of the day. If we all remember how active we were as children, it's kind of sad how little activity we get during the day.

Bottom line is Covid or not, we all need to do a better job of moving being healthy!

[Tron_fdc]

I've found with a hybrid WFH I can actually get to the gym MORE than I used to, and eat healthier. 4 days a week (Mon, Fri, Sat, Sun) I have a pretty flexible schedule where I can go to the gym, run, bike, ski, whatever. The other 3 days I can plan around my office schedule. Better physical fitness equals higher concentration levels and more work productivity in my mind.

Just another argument for WFH in my opinion.

[Wormius]

This is good news if you want to do some leisure travel to the US and were a mixed vax

https://twitter.com/user/status/1449014513219653634

[csnarpy]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

You can just save a screenshot of the QR code pdf, I would think.

You don’t even need to do this. Just click on QR code and save to images. Works great. I’m going to try and make a watch face and see if that works.

[Wormius]

Somebody had come up with this using the shortcut creator that comes in iOS now. Could conceivably create one for each family member for convenience.

https://mobilesyrup.com/2021/09/22/h...ortcut-ios-15/

[Knut]

Originally Posted by csnarpy

You don’t even need to do this. Just click on QR code and save to images. Works great. I’m going to try and make a watch face and see if that works.

I tried that. It did not want to scan and it was hard getting your name and DOB in there at the same time.

[Knut]

Originally Posted by Wormius

Somebody had come up with this using the shortcut creator that comes in iOS now. Could conceivably create one for each family member for convenience.

https://mobilesyrup.com/2021/09/22/h...ortcut-ios-15/

Just did this.. Thanks. That wil make it easy