11-09-2018, 10:28 AM
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#2281
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: NYYC
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Originally Posted by Locke
And even then its not as though his health 'let him down' the League let him down by allowing people to try caving his skull in.
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Yeah, it's the same affliction that affects Gaudreau's hands.
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11-09-2018, 10:33 AM
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#2282
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: DeWinton
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Originally Posted by habernac
McDavid live would be worth the price of admission. What would a ticket be there? $20?
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Was curious myself so I checked ticket master. You can purchase a Verified Resale Ticket for 15.00 big ones.
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11-09-2018, 10:34 AM
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#2283
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Table 5
I guess it depends on what you consider a generation (it seems like for many it feels like 2-3 years), but until McDavid steps it up across the board, Crosby is still the best all around player of the last 20 years in my eyes.
McDavid has a few skillsets nobody can match, but Crosby has been as complete package of player as there is...he has had a killer mix of talent, intelligence and drive. And most importantly, he's done it at the highest level, and when it matters. The only thing that has let him down is his health.
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Yeah the definition of generational is always odd and depends on the person.
For me I look at it as a simple question - is the player considered the best in the league for a sustained period of time.
I look at it in about decade long windows.
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11-09-2018, 10:37 AM
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#2284
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: The Bay Area
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Originally Posted by Textcritic
They were playing the Oilers. Who the hell in Florida wants to go watch the crappy Edmonton Oilers? Good on them for saving their money, because Edmonton is no good.
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11-09-2018, 10:51 AM
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#2285
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: NYYC
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Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
For me I look at it as a simple question - is the player considered the best in the league for a sustained period of time.
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I generally agree with that, although the length of that "sustained period" is important. For me a generational player has to be the best not just for 2-3 years, but a solid 10+.
McDavid is most likely that guy now. Can he sustain it for another decade? We will see I guess.
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11-09-2018, 11:01 AM
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#2286
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Table 5
I generally agree with that, although the length of that "sustained period" is important. For me a generational player has to be the best not just for 2-3 years, but a solid 10+.
McDavid is most likely that guy now. Can he sustain it for another decade? We will see I guess.
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Yup agreed. Iginla was the best player in the game for a very short period of time. Not generational.
I would argue Nik Lindstrom is a generational defenseman based on his sustained period of being the very best blueliner. But doesn't often get talked about that way.
But in general for some reason, when folks talk about generational players it seems like it's always forwards.
Who are the dmen and goalies that should be considered generational?
Dmen: Orr, Lindstrom. Who else?
Goalies: Roy, Brodeur, Hasek? Plante? Sawchuk? Dryden?
Seems more clear with forwards: Richard, Howe, Gretzky, Lemiuex, Crosby, etc.
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11-09-2018, 11:04 AM
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#2287
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Franchise Player
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Paul Coffey is tough to ignore
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11-09-2018, 11:08 AM
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#2288
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by killer_carlson
Paul Coffey is tough to ignore
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Is Coffee the best dman of that generation or Bourque?
Coffey won 2 in the mid 80s and then picked up a 3rd with the Wings, which for some reason I COMPLETELY don't recall.
Bourque won 5
Going back further Doug Harvey won 7
So I think my list is:
Harvey
Orr
Bourque
Lindstrom
No one has emerged from the current generation.
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11-09-2018, 11:09 AM
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#2289
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Franchise Player
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For goalies I think you have to go:
Plante
Dryden
Roy
Hasek
Brodeur
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11-09-2018, 11:11 AM
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#2290
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Hasek is first in my eyes from a purely analytical/historiographical perspective. Of course I don't have the breadth of viewing experience as others do
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11-09-2018, 11:12 AM
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#2291
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Franchise Player
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McDavid is a generational talent, anyone who thinks otherwise has homer glasses on.
He's the best player since Crosby, Crosby is the best player to ever play (not adjusted for eras).
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11-09-2018, 11:13 AM
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#2292
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheScorpion
Hasek is first in my eyes from a purely analytical/historiographical perspective. Of course I don't have the breadth of viewing experience as others do
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You calling us old?
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11-09-2018, 11:13 AM
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#2293
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That Crazy Guy at the Bus Stop
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Springfield Penitentiary
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For shame, discussing the greats of the game in this no good thread. Sullying their legacies by mentioning them alongside so much no goodness.
Mcdavid is no good.
Edmonton is no good.
End of story.
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11-09-2018, 11:15 AM
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#2294
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger
For shame, discussing the greats of the game in this no good thread. Sullying their legacies by mentioning them alongside so much no goodness.
Mcdavid is no good.
Edmonton is no good.
End of story.
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Hey did you guys hear? Edmonton is hosting the Grey Cup this year and the Eskimos couldn't make the playoffs in a 9 team league.
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11-09-2018, 11:16 AM
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#2295
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
You calling us old?
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...Yes.
You ok with that, gramps?
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11-09-2018, 11:19 AM
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#2296
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheScorpion
...Yes.
You ok with that, gramps?
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Why aren't you in class?
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11-09-2018, 11:19 AM
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#2297
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
Why aren't you in class?
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Real answer? My lecture is in a break
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11-09-2018, 11:21 AM
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#2298
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That Crazy Guy at the Bus Stop
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Springfield Penitentiary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov
Hey did you guys hear? Edmonton is hosting the Grey Cup this year and the Eskimos couldn't make the playoffs in a 9 team league.
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And Jason Maas is coming back for another season of tantrums and being an all around #######.
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11-09-2018, 11:24 AM
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#2299
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
Why aren't you in class?
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Hes too busy on your lawn.
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11-09-2018, 11:27 AM
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#2300
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2016
Location: ATCO Field, Section 201
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheScorpion
Hasek is first in my eyes from a purely analytical/historiographical perspective. Of course I don't have the breadth of viewing experience as others do
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Hasek had you sitting on the edge of your seat. He captured your imagination like few players in that position have been able to do. Even at the time he was larger than life.
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