That documentary was terrific, makes me want to start a chapter here in Iceland.
I loved the part where the one member responded that most people she speaks with are often disappointed that Satanic Temple members don't believe in an actual Satan. The irony is hilarious.
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I loved the part where the one member responded that most people she speaks with are often disappointed that Satanic Temple members don't believe in an actual Satan. The irony is hilarious.
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I find it very interesting that TST's perspective of Satan is probably actually much closer to the roots of the Satan character in early Israelite religion. I have delivered some lectures on the depiction of Satan in the Book of Job and on the role played by the serpent (not Satan) in the Genesis 2–3 creation story—both of these portray הסטן ("the Satan") or הנחש (the serpent) as a counterbalance to the danger of absolute divine power.
If interested, check out Lecture 2.1. "The Divine Assembly"
Also, Lecture 3.2. "Creation Stories in Context"
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My favourite part was when they got into satan scare of the 80's & 90's and the one guy said at some point he realized this was the churches projecting their own crimes on their perceived adversaries. It's so true and and reflects a lot of the problems we suffer through on the political fringes today.
TST isn't my brand of Atheism, I'm more into socratically asking them unanswerable questions while feigning ignorance, so they can trip themselves up trying to answer them. But they are an ally we need and seem like a fun ally to have.
My favourite part was when they got into satan scare of the 80's & 90's and the one guy said at some point he realized this was the churches projecting their own crimes on their perceived adversaries. It's so true and and reflects a lot of the problems we suffer through on the political fringes today.
TST isn't my brand of Atheism, I'm more into socratically asking them unanswerable questions while feigning ignorance, so they can trip themselves up trying to answer them. But they are an ally we need and seem like a fun ally to have.
I remember going on workshops where they taught us how to recognise ritual satanic abuse in kids, even at the time I kept thinking it was to weird to be true.
Mormon church has 100 billion in investments that garner no tax. It's all about the money and power.
...but they pay out 40 million per year to help. That's like an average person being all proud they donate 50 dollars to those less fortunate.
I remember going on workshops where they taught us how to recognise ritual satanic abuse in kids, even at the time I kept thinking it was to weird to be true.
Did anyone else read this psychotic fever dream at the height of The Panic?
If you don't know, this book was published in 1986 by Jack T. Chick's publishing house. I read it when I was 17-years-old, and it ####ed me up.
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For seventeen years, Elaine served her master, Satan, with total commitment. Then she met Dr. Rebecca Brown, who served her master, Jesus Christ, with equal commitment. Elaine, one of the top witches in the U.S., clashed with Dr. Brown, who stood against her alone. In the titanic life-and-death struggle that followed, Dr. Brown nearly lost her life. Elaine, finding a power and love greater than anything Satan could give her, left Satan and totally committed her life to Jesus Christ.
This is an honest, in-depth account of Satan's activities today.
You'll see how to:
· Recognize and combat the many satanists who regularly infiltrate and destroy Christian churches.
· Recognize and combat satanic attacks.
· Recognize those serving Satan, and bring them to Jesus Christ.
There are some outrageous stories in this book about meeting demons, sacrificing hobos, partying with rock bands that had literally sold their souls to the devil, encountering werewolves, and even a wedding with the Dark Lord himself. Bear in mind that this is billed as an autobiography.
The author, Rebecca Brown is now living as a fugitive in Central America. She had her medical licence revoked in at least two US states, and was charged with malpractice and negligence for treating patients with massive dosages of narcotics, and misdiagnosing serious illnesses as demonic possession. The woman, "Elaine" in her story was actually a seriously ill schizophrenic that Brown kept doped up in a halucinagenic state under her control for years.
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"...harem warfare? like all your wives dressup and go paintballing?"
Mormon church has 100 billion in investments that garner no tax. It's all about the money and power.
...but they pay out 40 million per year to help. That's like an average person being all proud they donate 50 dollars to those less fortunate.
It's bad but not even close to the Catholic bad, the head of the Catholic Church in Vatican City are so corrupt nobody has a clue how much money the have.
Mormon church has 100 billion in investments that garner no tax. It's all about the money and power.
...but they pay out 40 million per year to help. That's like an average person being all proud they donate 50 dollars to those less fortunate.
And don't forget that 10% tithe all you good mormons! No chance of being lord over your own planet without that tithing!
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It's bad but not even close to the Catholic bad, the head of the Catholic Church in Vatican City are so corrupt nobody has a clue how much money the have.
Cut the Mormons a break, man. The Catholic church has had centuries more time. Mormons are just working on catching up. Can't be a proper well respected religion of the people without extravagant palaces and bins of money!
Truly an evil man. I was given his comics as a child too. I kind of got off on his sado-masochistic depiction of sin which was an early insight into adulthood, I guess.
Truly an evil man. I was given his comics as a child too. I kind of got off on his sado-masochistic depiction of sin which was an early insight into adulthood, I guess.
Have you watched the documentary, which was made before Chick died? It is included in the link above, if you have not.
Yes, Chick was a despicable douchbag, but he was also a genuine cartoon figure, which continues to be fascinating to me. As a conspiracy theory junkie, Chick's career, worldview and writings are must-read material because he and his followers continue to weave together every bizarre idea ever forwarded to support their chicken-little, persecution complex of apocalypticism. The current spokesperson for Chick Publications, David Daniels, is a massive proponent of the King James Only movement, and propagates this amazing idea that 19th century master con-man and forger Constantine Simonides—a fierce rival of Constantine von Tischendorf—manufactured the Codex Siniaticus in an effort to forward a illegitimate form of "Alexandrian" Christianity. (FYI, Simonides's wikipedia page is hilariously biased and inaccurate.)
It's all fascinating stuff.
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I was raised by quite strict evangelical parents, but I don't seem to have picked up much of the trauma or anger that some of you have once you left the faith.
Honestly, once I hit university and I had my life opened to what existed outside of the church - well I just can't describe the breath-taking excitement. Leaving the church was a relief for me, like taking off a dirty shirt.
I was raised by quite strict evangelical parents, but I don't seem to have picked up much of the trauma or anger that some of you have once you left the faith.
Honestly, once I hit university and I had my life opened to what existed outside of the church - well I just can't describe the breath-taking excitement. Leaving the church was a relief for me, like taking off a dirty shirt.
what did your parents and the church think of your breath of fresh air?
what did your parents and the church think of your breath of fresh air?
I ostracized them first. No joke. I made up my mind that I wanted out and I did it clearly and firmly. I'm glad that I did it early enough so that there weren't too many personal consequences.
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I ostracized them first. No joke. I made up my mind that I wanted out and I did it clearly and firmly. I'm glad that I did it early enough so that there weren't too many personal consequences.
What elements of the church were you most upset with?
