12-08-2017, 10:07 AM
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#4601
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by jayswin
 Don't you mean you'd take Mark Stone 100 times out of 100? |
Yeah, but I want to keep Mike.
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12-08-2017, 10:11 AM
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#4602
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: stuck in BC watching the nucks
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Originally Posted by Poe969
I remember when so many people here were against going after Jeff Carter because they thought he was a bad locker room guy. Turned out to be a pretty good guy after all, he just needed time to grow up and I think the same goes for Kane. He's exactly the type of player we need
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At 26 now are you suggesting he is still so young that he will grow up relatively soon or that he recently has and no one noticed?
His questionable antics (granted some are hearsay and rumor) are not that long ago, so I don't have that much faith that he has or will mature much more. Honestly, I don't like the gamble due to the supposed attitude concerns, but as far as player potential goes he might work out if he learns to not coast outside of contract years.
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12-08-2017, 10:19 AM
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#4603
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Toonage
dammage79: Usually about 2 weeks before Xmas or a week before the NHL freeze I think.
Love: Personally, I doubt Brouwer waives his NTC for Buffalo
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If you tell him his other option is gonna be Stockton he would waive
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12-08-2017, 10:22 AM
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#4604
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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California or Buffalo? He makes the same money regardless and his give a #### meter is already low.
I'm betting he takes the demotion.
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12-08-2017, 10:25 AM
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#4605
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by Toonage
California or Buffalo? He makes the same money regardless and his give a #### meter is already low.
I'm betting he takes the demotion.
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Playing in the NHL is better, no matter where you play. Plus, it's Stockton, not Palm Springs.
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12-08-2017, 10:29 AM
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#4606
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Sunny California
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
Playing in the NHL is better, no matter where you play. Plus, it's Stockton, not Palm Springs.
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Stockton is one step up from Hell and two steps up from Edmonton.
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12-08-2017, 11:44 AM
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#4607
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
Playing in the NHL is better, no matter where you play. Plus, it's Stockton, not Palm Springs.
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(Carefully thinks of calculated, measured reply. Leans slowly towards microphone)
Buffalo.
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12-08-2017, 11:59 AM
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#4608
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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Last edited by Toonage; 12-08-2017 at 12:03 PM.
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12-08-2017, 12:14 PM
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#4609
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Poe969
I remember when so many people here were against going after Jeff Carter because they thought he was a bad locker room guy. Turned out to be a pretty good guy after all, he just needed time to grow up and I think the same goes for Kane. He's exactly the type of player we need
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Yeah, but Mike Richards was in an identical boat and went the other way.
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12-08-2017, 12:17 PM
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#4610
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Thunder Bay Ontario
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Has Kane done anything this season that has raised any eyebrows or made him look like a bad teammate?
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Last edited by Poe969; 12-08-2017 at 12:22 PM.
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12-08-2017, 12:19 PM
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#4611
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Poe969
I remember when so many people here were against going after Jeff Carter because they thought he was a bad locker room guy. Turned out to be a pretty good guy after all, he just needed time to grow up and I think the same goes for Kane. He's exactly the type of player we need
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Carter/Richards both put up 60-80 point seasons at the time they were moved and team took a chance on them.
Kane has surpassed just 50pts once in his career. the upside of risk/reward equation doesn't make it worth it, for me....
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12-08-2017, 12:20 PM
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#4612
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Poe969
Mike Richards wasn't as talented as Carter or Kane.
Has Kane done anything this season that has raised any eyebrows or made him look like a bad teammate?
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nope. Richards had proven his offensive prowess FAR more than kane ever has to date. He had a 75, 80, and 2 x 60pt seasons before he got dealt.
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12-08-2017, 12:21 PM
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#4613
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bubbsy
Carter/Richards both put up 60-80 point seasons at the time they were moved and team took a chance on them.
Kane has surpassed just 50pts once in his career. the upside of risk/reward equation doesn't make it worth it, for me....
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To be fair, Carter acted like a baby when he was traded to Columbus and the Blue Jackets ended up getting worse when they had to flip him.
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12-08-2017, 12:23 PM
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#4614
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
To be fair, Carter acted like a baby when he was traded to Columbus and the Blue Jackets ended up getting worse when they had to flip him.
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oh for sure. I am not questioning their attitude/behaviour issues, but am stating their performance to that point warranted the risks in the A&B department.
I'm not saying Kane is anywhere close to those guys as far as the A&B, but he's a tier or 2 below the others when it comes to performance and on ice results.
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12-08-2017, 12:51 PM
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#4615
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Franchise Player
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And to be fair, Darryl Sutter wishes he was Jeff Carter.
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12-08-2017, 01:15 PM
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#4616
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: The Void between Darkness and Light
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
To be fair, Carter acted like a baby when he was traded to Columbus and the Blue Jackets ended up getting worse when they had to flip him.
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If I recall correctly he wouldn't even answer Scott Howson's phone calls.
lol.
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12-08-2017, 01:32 PM
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#4617
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Boy, something's gotta give for Ottawa. They have to sign Stone for next year and no one of significance is coming off the books. The biggest contract that goes is Oduya's $1M. A cape space increase ain't going to absorb what Stone will get. They also have to re-sign Ceci, who they only locked down for a two year deal last time.
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12-08-2017, 01:59 PM
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#4618
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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Feel really sorry for Sens fans. What a tease that organization is with great drafting, great development and then they just settle for mediocrity due to their owner.
As angry as we get as Flames fans with the team sometimes, imagine if your team was neck and neck with your hated rival (The Leafs) and then suddenly your management decided "Our number one centre is going to want a big contract this summer, let's downgrade in a trade for someone cost controlled for next season!!", and then immediately tailspinned to the bottom of the league.
That has to be devastating.
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12-08-2017, 02:17 PM
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#4619
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jayswin
Feel really sorry for Sens fans. What a tease that organization is with great drafting, great development and then they just settle for mediocrity due to their owner.
As angry as we get as Flames fans with the team sometimes, imagine if your team was neck and neck with your hated rival (The Leafs) and then suddenly your management decided "Our number one centre is going to want a big contract this summer, let's downgrade in a trade for someone cost controlled for next season!!", and then immediately tailspinned to the bottom of the league.
That has to be devastating.
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Imagine if you traded Silvferberg for Bobby Ryan and then signed him for $7.25 million for seven seasons?
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12-08-2017, 02:19 PM
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#4620
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: The Void between Darkness and Light
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tinordi
Imagine if you traded Silvferberg for Bobby Ryan and then signed him for $7.25 million for seven seasons?
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Tarasenko for David Rundblad.
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