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Was that the most high danger saves that Talbot has made in the playoffs? The 5 goals by Dallas could have been a lot worse.
You are correct that based on fatigue that Talbot might need a break. Lot of games in a short time frame.
No comment on Benn spearing Tkachuk? The video I saw pretty much shows Benn not spearing him... Likely something happened to Tkachuk before Benn bumped him.
There was a clip out yesterday with Scheifele saying that Tkachuk contacted him and Scheifele accepted an apology as he is not one to keep grudges.
Was that the most high danger saves that Talbot has made in the playoffs? The 5 goals by Dallas could have been a lot worse.
You are correct that based on fatigue that Talbot might need a break. Lot of games in a short time frame.
No comment on Benn spearing Tkachuk? The video I saw pretty much shows Benn not spearing him... Likely something happened to Tkachuk before Benn bumped him.
There was a clip out yesterday with Scheifele saying that Tkachuk contacted him and Scheifele accepted an apology as he is not one to keep grudges.
Are you talking about when Tkachuk got hit in the head via the sandwich with Benn and Oleksiak, or when Benn speared Tkachuk in the nutsack. Because the latter was a clear spear in Professor Nutbutter's House of Treats...
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Sorry somehow I did not see that when I saw the video the first couple of times. Now it looks blatant. Are the Flames sending it in to the League?
They definitely should. I can see the ref missing it because it looked sneaky and Tkachuk didn't drop to his knees in pain but there's no reason the league should let that go without even a fine.
They definitely should. I can see the ref missing it because it looked sneaky and Tkachuk didn't drop to his knees in pain but there's no reason the league should let that go without even a fine.
Tkachuk gave a clear and instant reaction that he was in trouble. That would be a clear attempt to injure. Tkachuk penchant for drawing Penalties would have made an official missing the actual spear to think that he was acting out a cross check or other offense that happens regularly on a face off.
Both this incident and Tkachuk's kicking Scheifele present the league with a bad problem. IF they were considered an attempt to injure they are far more "dirty, filthy and disgusting" than a head shot or driving someone into the end boards that are miscalculations of a valid legal hit... They should be 20 game suspensions.... because of Benn and Tkachuk's being elite players that people pay to watch it is better to ignore these altogether.
What did apologize for? Scheifele losing his balance? Scheifele was treated for a compression injury to the back of his leg. It happened, it was in the tradition of Bobby Clarke breaking Valeri Kharlamov's ankle in 1972.
It doesn't make Henderson's series winning goal or the Flames winning their 2nd series since 2004 any less celebrated.
Both this incident and Tkachuk's kicking Scheifele present the league with a bad problem. IF they were considered an attempt to injure they are far more "dirty, filthy and disgusting" than a head shot or driving someone into the end boards that are miscalculations of a valid legal hit... They should be 20 game suspensions.... because of Benn and Tkachuk's being elite players that people pay to watch it is better to ignore these altogether.
The two aren't even comparable. Tkachuk's was a freak accident that 9 out of 10 times ends up being a regular hit because Scheifele doesn't get caught up like that in the boards and Tkachuk doesn't lose his footing after having his skate bounce.
He apologized for coming in faster than he should have.
"The one thing I know, and he talked about being out of control and skating too fast. He took ownership of that. It's one of those things that's a learning curve for everyone. ... It's a fast-moving game, but what I said earlier, I'm thankful it wasn't as serious as it could have been."
Is David Rittich better? I’m honestly not sure, but I do think David Rittich at his best is better than Cam Talbot at his best. The rub is the fact that Cam Talbot at his worst is better than David Rittich at his worst.
This nailed it for our keeping so well.
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What did apologize for? Scheifele losing his balance? Scheifele was treated for a compression injury to the back of his leg. It happened, it was in the tradition of Bobby Clarke breaking Valeri Kharlamov's ankle in 1972.
It doesn't make Henderson's series winning goal or the Flames winning their 2nd series since 2004 any less celebrated.
Jeepers. It wasn’t even close to Clarke.
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What did apologize for? Scheifele losing his balance? Scheifele was treated for a compression injury to the back of his leg. It happened, it was in the tradition of Bobby Clarke breaking Valeri Kharlamov's ankle in 1972.
It doesn't make Henderson's series winning goal or the Flames winning their 2nd series since 2004 any less celebrated.
Holy crap. I don't know how anyone can compare the deliberate injury from Clarke with this incident.
He apologized because a player suffered a serious injury as a result of an interaction on the ice they had. Tkachuk can feel bad about that without it being deliberate. We don't know what they said to each other but I suspect it wasn't "Hey man I apologize for kicking you" because that didn't happen.
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What did apologize for? Scheifele losing his balance? Scheifele was treated for a compression injury to the back of his leg. It happened, it was in the tradition of Bobby Clarke breaking Valeri Kharlamov's ankle in 1972.
It doesn't make Henderson's series winning goal or the Flames winning their 2nd series since 2004 any less celebrated.
Can you finally answer the question of whether or not you are a Jets fan. I think being up front about that would help folks understand your takes.
Holy crap. I don't know how anyone can compare the deliberate injury from Clarke with this incident.
He apologized because a player suffered a serious injury as a result of an interaction on the ice they had. Tkachuk can feel bad about that without it being deliberate. We don't know what they said to each other but I suspect it wasn't "Hey man I apologize for kicking you" because that didn't happen.
Yeah and didn't he mention that's he's practiced with him in the off-season a fair bit, so he actually has a personal connection which would compel anyone to apologies.
"I apologies for spilling my beverage" doesn't mean I picked up the drink, and deliberately poured it on the table!
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- blame a concussion on a mouth guard which is out dated science
- basically reveal that he didn't even watch the playoff game because he didn't see the spear which was shown about a dozen times
- suggest an unfortunate result from a hit is the same as a spear to the nards
- suggest both are 20 game suspensions
- compare Tkachuk's hit to a targeted slash that broke a Russian's ankle
Stuff like this really does lend one to think he's just trying to create chaos.
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I held off as long as I could stand it, as I try to be open to a variety of opinions, but this seals it. Ricardo is going on the ignore list, and I recommend all Flames fans do the same.
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