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11-20-2019, 12:05 AM
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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I think Rieder is better than Frolik, to be honest.
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11-20-2019, 12:12 AM
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#3
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Franchise Player
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You're being nice calling Tkachuk a right wing. I'd put him as a left wing and expose the biggest problem on the club.
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11-20-2019, 12:21 AM
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First Line Centre
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Gaudreau-Lindholm-
Tkachuk-Monahan-
Bennett-Backlund-Mangiapane
Lucic-Ryan-Dube
Gio-Andersson
Hanifin-Hamonic
Kylington-Stone
Rittich
Talbot
IR: Czarnik, Valimaki
Trade: Frolik, Brodie, Jankowski
We need a couple top 6 RWers or 1 RWer and a center.
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11-20-2019, 12:28 AM
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#5
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Farm Team Player
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Finland
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We have seen it. Lindholm is a right winger, because Peters has decided it. The biggest need is a top6-center.
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11-20-2019, 04:23 AM
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#6
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Thunder Bay Ontario
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Flames roster:
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11-20-2019, 05:42 AM
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#7
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Franchise Player
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Yeah, Tkachuk should be slotted on LW. He is not a RWer and Kylington is a 3 (homerism calling him better than Brodie), Andersson is a 2/3 and Brodie is a 1/2. You also forgot Stone, who is a fine #3 RD (Good list overall though IMO).
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11-20-2019, 06:17 AM
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#8
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Franchise Player
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The biggest problem is needing a bunch of 2’s and having a bunch of 3-4’s to trade for them
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11-20-2019, 06:28 AM
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#9
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Franchise Player
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My opinion
Centers
1. Monahan [1-2]
2. Lindholm [2]
3. Backlund [3]
4. Ryan [3-4]
5. Dube [4]
6. Jankowski [4-5]
Left Wing
1. Gaudreau [1]
2. Tkachuk [1]
3. Mangiapane [3]
4. Bennett [3]
5. Lucic [4]
Right Wing
1. Czarnik [3-4]
2. Frolik [4-5]
Left Defence
1. Giordano [1]
2. Hanifin [1-2]
3. Valimaki [2-3]
4. Kylington [3]
Right Defence
1. Brodie [1-2]
2. Andersson [2]
3. Hamonic [3]
4. Stone [3]
Goaltender
1. Rittich [1]
2. Talbot [2]
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11-20-2019, 07:07 AM
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#10
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Calgary
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Great lists. I agree with the consensus that they bring us to: a top line RW would do wonders for this team... if Gaudreau and Monahan start playing like top line players again.
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11-20-2019, 07:14 AM
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#11
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First Line Centre
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Hanifin isn't a 1-2 at this point, that's the upside. He doesn't have the offense or the defense to be called that right now.
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11-20-2019, 08:36 AM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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I would rank it as follows:
Gaudreau (1LW) - Monahan (lower tier 1C) - Lindholm (1RW)
Tkachuk(1LW) - Backlund (2C) - Mangiapane (3LW)
Bennett (3C/W) - Ryan (3C) - Frolik (4w)
Lucic (4LW) - Jankowski (4C/AHL) - Rieder, Rinaldo (AHL)
Dube (4C/W) - Czarnik (4W)
Gio (1D) - Brodie (4D-5D)
Han (3D) - Hammer(4D-5D)
Kylington (7D/AHL) - Anderson (3D-4D)
Stone (7D/AHL)
Rittich (1G)
Talbot (2G)
Our RW in my opinion is the problem. We have one true viable RW option in his true position. I also am not a huge fan of our defense blend, would love to get a guy like Edmunston from Carolina for example to strengthen the bottom pairing.
I have a feeling that a move will happen very soon.
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11-20-2019, 09:04 AM
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GOAT!
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I listed Tkachuk as a RW because I really like him on the right side. I also believe a good second line would allow a Gaudreau Monahan Tkachuk line the room they need to become dominant.
Getting a second line RW is going to be difficult enough without also having to get a first line right wing.
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11-20-2019, 09:09 AM
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#14
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Franchise Player
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My opinion
Centers
1. Monahan [1]
2. Backlund [3]
3. Ryan [4]
4. Jankowski [5]
Left Wing
1. Gaudreau [1]
2. Tkachuk [1]
3. Mangiapane [3]
4. Lucic [4]
5. Dube [4]
Right Wing
1. Lindholm [1]
2. Bennett [3]
3. Czarnik [4]
4. Frolik [5]
Left Defence
1. Giordano [1]
2. Hanifin [2]
3. Valimaki [3]
4. Kylington [3]
Right Defence
1. Brodie [1]
2. Andersson [2]
3. Hamonic [3]
4. Stone [4]
Goaltender
1. Rittich [1]
2. Talbot [2]
Priorities:
1. #2 centre
2. #2 right wing
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11-20-2019, 11:13 AM
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#16
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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I think projecting guys like Philp, Kirkland, Koumontzis, Feuk, Sveningsson, etc as top-six forwards at this stage is gratuitously optimistic.
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11-20-2019, 01:31 PM
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#17
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Franchise Player
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I don't think it's worthwhile to try to slot any players who have played under ~150 NHL games. For instance, Mangiapane could be anywhere from 1-5...it's a lot more likely that he's a Nigel Dawes than Mike Cammalleri, but who knows? His optimal deployment is a top 6 winger, but you certainly wouldn't rate him that way yet.
For me, it's most useful to do this on the basis of where the player should slot on a Cup winning roster as opposed to an average NHL roster. This also doesn't mean it's where they would slot (Kane as a 1RW on line 2, Sharp a borderline top liner on line 3, etc.)
Centers
Monahan [2]
Backlund [3]
Ryan [3-4]
Dube [??]
Jankowski [??]
Left Wing
Gaudreau [1]
Tkachuk [1]
Mangiapane [??]
Bennett [3]
Lucic [4]
Right Wing
Lindholm[1]
Czarnik [??]
Frolik [4]
Rieder [5]
On defence, ranking by pairing is silly IMO. Huge difference between a legit #1 and even the best #2 (say prime Regehr, Seabrook, Bouwmeester, etc.). Disparity is less obvious between 2-3, 3-4, etc, but a team with a 1-1 & 4-4 top 4 is a hell of a lot different than a 2-2 & 3-3 (just ask the Oilers).
Left Defence
Giordano [1]
Brodie [2.5]
Hanifin [3+]
Hamonic [4]
Kylington [??]
Valimaki [??]
Andersson [??]
Stone [6]
Davidson [7]
Goaltender
1. Rittich [1]
2. Talbot [2]
G and D look pretty good; forwards are a total mess. I think Monahan could be the top line C on a cup winning team (especially with the calibre of wingers we have), but the 2C can't be Backlund.
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