it will be interesting to see if any players get traded across the border this year, as to me the potential quarantine issues make trading guys as part of hockey related deals complicated as you then take a guy out of your line up and presumably can't replace him.
A lesser issue if you are trading away a guy for futures.
Always interesting to think of the flames adding a guy; however, the cost is always the question
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I was all-in on PLD up until last night. There's no way you can consistently win with a guy like that. I don't think even Kovalev or Yashin ever pulled something like that.
Anyone the Flames trade for PLD will be a core and well-liked piece. Imagine what everyone in the dressing room will think of him the minute he walks in the door.
I suppose if he can be had on the cheap it's fine, but some GM is going to overpay for that hot mess.
Other people have addressed Kovalev, but I can pull you a clip of Ovechkin putting in even less effort a few years ago, and people said he was done, he'd lost interest and would never be the same guy he was.
A trade for him needs some serious thought, but that play's not a deal breaker.
It is funny when people discussed PLD and referenced the Leafs game in the playoffs and I actually read Flames fans on HF say they would give up Monahan and Gaudreau for PLD. Now after yesterday’s game people are putting together packages around Bennett, Kylington etc.
I don’t know what the price is for the Flames. I am guilty of drinking the kool-aid but I have loved everything I have heard about the drive and attitude Monahan currently has. That and the fact Lindholm wants to be a center and looks good doing it I am not sure where the fit and what price the Flames can pay?
I am also excited and intrigued by the play of Hanifin since he was paired with Tanev. The world juniors has sold me on the fact Pelletier is the type of player you want on your team.
Getting PLD makes sense because this team can always use your potential superstars and the 2021 1st is firmly on the table but I am not sure the other assets this team would move is enough.
Is Mangiapane a good enough centerpiece? I doubt it and then there I love what I have seen from him as well. It honestly would be a lot easier to throw around proposals if the flames didn’t look so good out of the gate. Having said that Vancouver looks like a doormat right now so maybe I am reading too much into these early games.
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LeBrun lists 12 teams that have inquired and then says he’s sure that other teams are interested In PLD as well. That’s half the league.
Every team in the league should be interested in a big skilled 22 year old oozing with potential.
There is no doubt to me Monahan is where it starts for Columbus. After watching Colorado then Dallas dismantle us in the playoffs its beyond obvious this team needs a big shake up.
Treliving knows this. This is the perfect shake up that will benefit the team for years to come.
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If the Flames can make a deal for PLD without dipping into the core they should be all over it. I still say you do Hanifin ($4.95) and Bennett ($2.55) for PLD ($5.0). One really good player in Hanifin and then a reclamation project in Bennett that could still turn into something (sell that hope Tre). A little risk for both teams, but one where the Flames take on a higher potential return if PLD gets his #### together. As it is, PLD would come in and be viewed as a support player and not the guy to carry the mail. Might help him get it together.
We also need to understand PLD is 22 and has not fully matured as a player or person. I also think whatever team gets him will get a very motivated player. From the Flames standpoint I think Ward is the type of coach that gets through to players and is more of a players coach. Reasons like that give me hope for the potential if the Flames can get him.
Other people have addressed Kovalev, but I can pull you a clip of Ovechkin putting in even less effort a few years ago, and people said he was done, he'd lost interest and would never be the same guy he was.
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No kidding. By the same logic, no one should ever take Ovechkin. Remember that video of him from years back.
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If the Flames can make a deal for PLD without dipping into the core they should be all over it. I still say you do Hanifin ($4.95) and Bennett ($2.55) for PLD ($5.0). One really good player in Hanifin and then a reclamation project in Bennett that could still turn into something (sell that hope Tre). A little risk for both teams, but one where the Flames take on a higher potential return if PLD gets his #### together. As it is, PLD would come in and be viewed as a support player and not the guy to carry the mail. Might help him get it together.
You have to give to get so this deal makes sense. I do think Bennett could thrive playing for a guy like Torts and in a fresh start. I am concerned the Flamesnwould be selling low on Hanifin who was somewhat wasted having to play with Hamonic for the last 2 years. It is early but he looks good with Tanev and did look good with Anderson
Having said that it allows them to get Valimaki in the top 4 and Mackey/Kylington in the lineup so they do have the depth to make this move. I assume this moves Lindholm to the wing and playing with Tkachuk and PLD and a healthy Dube getting a look with Monahan and Gaudreau. Mangiapane with Backlund and Leivo and Lucic, Ryan, Simon.
