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Old 07-06-2021, 05:13 PM   #521
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Having recently gotten into F1 can someone explain team Haas? They always qualify last and unless someone doesn’t finish a race they come last. Why even bother.
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Old 07-06-2021, 06:18 PM   #522
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Having recently gotten into F1 can someone explain team Haas? They always qualify last and unless someone doesn’t finish a race they come last. Why even bother.
They're the newest team on the grid and built ground up. HAAS racing has mega roots in Nascar and Indycar. Remember Newman/Haas of indycar?

They changed the game in terms of how they source things for their cars. Literally re wrote the book.

Their issue is poor sponsorship strategy. They don't get the money other teams do.

Honestly if 2022 doesn't change things for them with the new spending cap rule They're likely done in F1.
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Old 07-06-2021, 06:32 PM   #523
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Having recently gotten into F1 can someone explain team Haas? They always qualify last and unless someone doesn’t finish a race they come last. Why even bother.
They've had better seasons, they pretty much just didn't develop this years car at all and straight-up said their goal is to just to survive until next year with the rule changes
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Old 07-06-2021, 06:34 PM   #524
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Yeah, signing Mazespin because Dad's a Russian Oil Oligarch was a bit of a stretch. It's kind of what I mean by poor sponsorship strategy.
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It’s too bad because I feel like Haas was a real fan favourite underdog, especially for an American team in a euro dominated sport.

But they’ve really screwed the pooch. Between the sponsor debacles, Mazepin being a POS and their awful development, they went from being the plucky and entertaining underdogs, to the black sheep of the grid.

Gunther used to be one of the best characters in F1 with his brutal honesty and weird sense of humour. DTS was the Haas showcase and the was the star. Now he’s basically the epitome of Haas’ dysfunction. It’s kinda sad.
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Old 07-07-2021, 11:09 AM   #526
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The Haas of Newman/Haas is not the Haas of F1. Two different unrelated people.

The 2021 Haas is the 2020 Haas which wasn't a very good car. They are doing this to save money and focus on 2022 which has brand new regulations for car design.
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The Haas of Newman/Haas is not the Haas of F1. Two different unrelated people.

The 2021 Haas is the 2020 Haas which wasn't a very good car. They are doing this to save money and focus on 2022 which has brand new regulations for car design.
I had to look that up as I swore it was the same Haas family. Color me shocked there is two Haas racing families with no connections whatsoever.

Looking at this F1 Haas net worth seems he has a rather large stake invested in this team. He's really banking on turning this thing into a legitimate contender.
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I had to look that up as I swore it was the same Haas family. Color me shocked there is two Haas racing families with no connections whatsoever.

Looking at this F1 Haas net worth seems he has a rather large stake invested in this team. He's really banking on turning this thing into a legitimate contender.
Hahaha, WTF?? I also assumed it was the same family/group. I had no idea...TIL!!

I also like the F1 HAAS approach as they did try to live up to the spirit of F1 and develop there own car (*coughASTONMARTINcough*) while realizing they couldn't compete with the big boys. They got screwed by the Ferrari engine debacle as well and have focused on the 2022 car for a while.

There now saddled with a bad driver in Mazespin and Schumacher who may end up in Alfa Romeo next year if Kimi retires.
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Old 07-07-2021, 11:42 PM   #529
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Really good chain bear video on the penalties. He nails it at the end.

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I've really enjoyed this season so far. The battle between Red Bull and Mercedes is great and I think the mid field has been better than I though it would be.

The first sprint race and different qualifying at Silverstone will be very interesting. Sounds like they'll be able to have some fans in attendance too.
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Right! Sprint quali. So much more room for chaos.
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Yeah. If they're anything like the Formula 2 sprint race(s) so far, then chaos and excitement abound!

What's the tire allotment for that race? I would assume another 3-4 sets of varying compounds due to the extra 100 km's of race condition they will be putting the cars through.

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Yeah. If they're anything like the Formula 2 sprint race(s) so far, then chaos and excitement abound!

What's the tire allotment for that race? I would assume another 3-4 sets of varying compounds due to the extra 100 km's or race condition they will be putting the cars through.

Chain Bear for all things F1! lol.

At around the 5 min mark he discusses tyres.



TL;DR teams normally get 13 sets total with various allocations (give two back after each FP, 2 sets for race, 4 sets plus a "bonus" Q3 tyre for qually)

Sprint qualifying weekends: only 12 sets total, 2 sets allocated for sprint qually, teams are only expected to use 1 though as the race is too short to justify pitting. There are also a few other minor differences due to the lack of FP3, otherwise mostly the same as a regular weekend.

As with 2020, Pirelli are choosing the allocations between the 3 allowable compounds. In non-covid seasons, teams get to pick how they allocate their 13 tyres amongst the 3 selected compounds for the weekend.

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Crofty saying on the radio today that Russell to Merc will be announced at silverstone!
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Old 07-09-2021, 03:31 PM   #535
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What did we decide we are doing on Sprint weekends? Picks in Thursday?
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What did we decide we are doing on Sprint weekends? Picks in Thursday?
Same as normal IIRC. Sprint race is still on Saturday, so picks due Friday midnight. The Friday qualifying sets the order for the Sprint Race which decides the race start order.

We can change if people want...

I know there are points available from the qualy sprint, but those are not included in our point scoring for this year. Suggest we look at it next year and can add in then.
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Crofty saying on the radio today that Russell to Merc will be announced at silverstone!
Interesting...seems bit early to me. But if they call Russell then I'm sure Bottas is gonna give a big FU to Merc for the rest of year. He's good enough to get a drive elsewhere, but no chance he helps them get back into the Constructors.
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Old 07-09-2021, 04:36 PM   #538
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It's not like he is exactly helping them right now anyways
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If that's the case it'll be really interesting who Williams gets to fill Russels seat. I'd like to see Albon return. I think he could flourish outside of the RB pressure cooker that is the RB 2nd seat.
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Crofty saying on the radio today that Russell to Merc will be announced at silverstone!

If that's true, so much for saying they'll decide over the summer.
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