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Old 10-12-2020, 07:41 PM   #81
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Hmmm how much better is Schmidt than Tanev?
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Old 10-12-2020, 07:42 PM   #82
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Correct. And if the Canucks knew this was a sure thing late last week, it explains the lack of movement on Toffoli.

Stech's 1.7 still doesn't make sense though.





Yep, don't get me wrong. It's super lucky.
I dont get the stetcher thing, I like him but if he wasn't from Richmond no ones going this crazy

Hes a number 5 guy who can step up and play top 4 minutes temporarily, that's a valuable thing for sure

But with the flat cap, I dont mind taking the chance that Rafferty can replace him at what is half the price
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Hmmm how much better is Schmidt than Tanev?
By a lot offensively. Probably a little worse defensively. Overall, a fair amount better.
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Player A 24 YO signed for 4 more years at just under 5 mill

18/19 — GP 80 G 5 A 28 PTS 33 +\- +18 ATOI 20:46

19/20 — GP 70 G 5 A 17 PTS 22 +\- - 12 ATOI 21:10

Player B 29 YO signed for 5 more years at just under 6 mill

18/19 — GP 61 G 9 A 21 PTS 30 +\- +22 ATOI 21:57

19/20 — GP 59 G 7 A 24 PTS 31 +\- +11 ATOI 21:41
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Hey, listen, when the Panthers finally make me G.M. after my 10th essay of "I want to be the G.M.", I'll make moves like these.

Until then, I have to sit and watch.
It’s cause you literally have Fan in your name. Change it to Cali Panthers GM and try again.
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Player A 24 YO signed for 4 more years at just under 5 mill

18/19 — GP 80 G 5 A 28 PTS 33 +\- +18 ATOI 20:46

19/20 — GP 70 G 5 A 17 PTS 22 +\- - 12 ATOI 21:10

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18/19 — GP 61 G 9 A 21 PTS 30 +\- +22 ATOI 21:57

19/20 — GP 59 G 7 A 24 PTS 31 +\- +11 ATOI 21:41
Player C 23 YO signed for 6 more years at $4.55M: GP 70 G 5 A 17 Pts 22, -7

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Often injured, 30~40 points for 6 million? I think I'd rather Tanev imo.

How is that worse than often injured 10-20 points for $4.5M?


And Schmidt doesn't even miss that many games to injury. His big absence in 2018-19 is because he got suspended for failing a PED test.
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How is that worse than often injured 10-20 points for $4.5M?
Tanev didn’t play with Vegas
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How is that worse than often injured 10-20 points for $4.5M?


And Schmidt doesn't even miss that many games to injury. His big absence in 2018-19 is because he got suspended for failing a PED test.
Because the 20 points came with better defence. And if Schmidt fails another PED test, he’ll get even more.
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How is that worse than often injured 10-20 points for $4.5M?


And Schmidt doesn't even miss that many games to injury. His big absence in 2018-19 is because he got suspended for failing a PED test.
There is another year and Tanev is a better defensive player...I think he will shine more on a good team

failing a PED test is worse than an injury IMO

I would take either guy/contract...seems like only one was available to the Flames so its kinda pointless to debate.

I feel like a broken record but every good trade/signing doesn't get run by Tre first. Its either Tanev or no Tanev...Flames D looks pretty solid to me
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Vegas wins the big picture deal by reading 2 effective yet overpaid assets for a 3rd and a 4th and then signing a legit superstar number 1 D with the cap savings.

I agree with the notion this is 2 division rivals helping g each other out. I think Vancouver was really all in on OEL and when that fell through there wasn’t much left to replace the lost Tanev. I think Schmitt is overpaid but not a horrible contract (definitely no worse than what we paid Tanev) and a 3rd round pick is getting to that throw away category (used to trade up a spot or 2 in the draft or for a deadline pick like Gus). I think this helps Vancouver for a cheap price and totally worth it for Vegas to sign Pietrangelo

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So the Canucks upgrade on Tanev

Love this pickup! Schmidt is a smooth skating puck mover that plays a high tempo game the Canucks like to play.

He and Hughes on different pairings would be great for our transition game.

Another name were getting linked with is Weegar. If we land him that's another upgrade on Stecher!

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So the Canucks upgrade on Tanev

Love this pickup! Schmidt is a smooth skating puck mover that plays a high tempo game the Canucks like to play.

He and Hughes on different pairings would be great for our transition game.

Another name were getting linked with is Weegar. If we land him that's another upgrade on Stecher!

Yet still worse than the bubble team from last year
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So the Canucks upgrade on Tanev

Love this pickup! Schmidt is a smooth skating puck mover that plays a high tempo game the Canucks like to play.

He and Hughes on different pairings would be great for our transition game.

Another name were getting linked with is Weegar. If we land him that's another upgrade on Stecher!

I hope you guys sign Hamonic to a 5 year deal at $5 million per
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Yet still worse than the bubble team from last year
How do you figure?

I get it their goaltending is worse and they lost Toffoli but when your best 2 players are playing on their elc you should expect that team to get better than the year before.
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So the Canucks upgrade on Tanev

Love this pickup! Schmidt is a smooth skating puck mover that plays a high tempo game the Canucks like to play.

He and Hughes on different pairings would be great for our transition game.

Another name were getting linked with is Weegar. If we land him that's another upgrade on Stecher!

Well with less than 2 million dollars in cap space and Gaudette yet to be signed this scenario seems likely.
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It's a good pickup by the Canuckleheads but why do teams, especially division rivals, keep bailing them out of cap hell? It just doesn't sit right for many fans!

Tanev at 4x4.5 or Schmidt 5x5.95 plus a 3rd wasn't a choice Tre had so why are people debating which deal is better? Get serious folks!
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How do you figure?

I get it their goaltending is worse and they lost Toffoli but when your best 2 players are playing on their elc you should expect that team to get better than the year before.
Markstrom covered a lot of warts, just like Kipper did for the Flames
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How do you figure?

I get it their goaltending is worse and they lost Toffoli but when your best 2 players are playing on their elc you should expect that team to get better than the year before.
They were a bubble team with Vezina level goal tending

Defensively they are worse too, not a good combo

I bet they struggle to make the playoffs
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I dont get the stetcher thing, I like him but if he wasn't from Richmond no ones going this crazy

Cause he's cheap and I hate massive turnover like this.
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