[Signing] Flames sign Chris Tanev (4 years, $4.5 million AAV)

[TheScorpion]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

well they need a RHD a lot more than Derek Ryan.
And you know I like Derek Ryan.

the problem is, Ryan is on a very good contract that ends in one year and he is a good player by basically every regard

in my opinion, Tanev is none of those things. IMO we're talking about a good third-line centre vs. a mediocre second-pairing defenseman with substantial injury issues

but I will wait until I see him on the ice

[Red]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

The problem that I see with the Tanev deal is that it will probably cause the Flames to move out a guy like Derek Ryan when, really, the contract they would probably be best served by moving out is Chris Tanev.

How so?
Tanev is a top 4 d, Ryan is a 4th liner. A good one, but overpaid. I'd love to see Ryan gone, just not a good value.

[Lanny_McDonald]

After watching Dallas take us apart in our own end, because we had no one that knew how to actually defend, this is a very welcomed addition.

[Crown Royal]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

If Gio has to lug Kylington around and cover for his mistakes he's going to be even less young n' fresh.
Pair Tanev and Gio and you have an elite shutdown pair to matchup against top lines, and still be able to move the puck

I like the idea of Gio/Tanev together late in games as a shutdown pair; but I also like the idea of Tanev with Hanifin so we can let his off his leash a little and expand his offensive game.

[TheScorpion]

Originally Posted by Red

How so?
Tanev is a top 4 d, Ryan is a 4th liner. A good one, but overpaid. I'd love to see Ryan gone, just not a good value.

a) IMO Ryan is underpaid or (at worst) fairly-paid
b) Ryan is probably the Flames' seventh-best forward, certainly not a fourth-liner

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

The problem that I see with the Tanev deal is that it will probably cause the Flames to move out a guy like Derek Ryan when, really, the contract they would probably be best served by moving out is Chris Tanev.

Ryan is a 4C making almost $4M (way too much) whereas Tanev is a second paring D making $4.5, a standard amount. I like Ryan but he can be replaced by a $1.5-2M guy without much impact.

[Corral]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Again. CP doesn't have a collective opinion.
The Canucks have a good team now and many this season said so.
If you are going to take a shot at the board, don't be so lazy about it. EVERY day there are tons of different opinions posted on this board.
Stuff like this is annoying.

I do think that the homerism on this board has risen in recent years. If that’s what you want me to say

[Wood]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

If Gio has to lug Kylington around and cover for his mistakes he's going to be even less young n' fresh.
Pair Tanev and Gio and you have an elite shutdown pair to matchup against top lines, and still be able to move the puck

That's immediately what I thought when I saw we signed Tanev. He's going to be paired with Giordano all season

This should hopefully allow our best offensive defenseman to take a few more calculated risks and help the forwards, and spend less shifts covering for Brodie's mistakes

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Crown Royal

I like the idea of Gio/Tanev together late in games as a shutdown pair; but I also like the idea of Tanev with Hanifin so we can let his off his leash a little and expand his offensive game.

Yeah I hadn't considered the possibilities of giving Hanifin and opportunity to shine more offensively.
And Rasmus/Gio could work too.

[N26]

I see some people have put posts up training to reign in the people thinking we'll sign Hall or Toffoli next.

That is not going to happen without a major salary dump. In fact I don't see Mangiapane getting more than a 2.0AAV right now. Even if Robinson, Rinaldo, Petrovic and cheaply signed Kylington (about $900 000) and Gawdin (about $800 000) fill-out the roster.

Go to the CapFriendly armchair GM and try to finish this roster off.

There won't be any more signings of new players IMO. Just the 4 RFAs.

[Yoho]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Does Tanev get matched up against McDavid?

And if so, how does he fare against him overall?

As good as every other defenceman McDavid skates around.

Pretty unrealistic goal post.

[Mattman]

I like it. You gotta think it accents the Markstrom signing well. Our new starter has a defender who played in front of him for 6 years.

[Samonadreau]

If Tanev plays with Gio we would have an undrafted top pairing

[Chingas]

So we have a no doubt need for a solid right shot d-man. Tre signs a solid replacement for 4.5 million that will play in our top 4. Top 4 d do not come much cheaper than this. I don't understand the amount of negative response to this signing. Do people think that he is a bottom pairing d-man? What is the alternative? I don't think that this is a homerun but it is solid at minimum.

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by Yoho

As good as every other defenceman McDavid skates around.

Pretty unrealistic goal post.

I was just curious because I've seen more than a few posts about how Brodie was the Flames key to defending McDavid, and Tanev is essentially replacing Brodie.

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Does Tanev get matched up against McDavid?

And if so, how does he fare against him overall?

I'd be worried about his skating. It's definitely not what it was and I vividly remember him getting burned at the start of last season

[DazzlinDino]

The more I think about it, this signing may be a good fit. Not a big fan of term, but without that BT may not have had too many options.

One thing that I find concerning is how we can let 2 quality defensmen walk without getting any assets in return. Poor asset management when you consider what we paid to get Travis Hamonic. Does anyone wonder if we could have traded up in the draft especially knowing Brodie was likely Toronto bound?

[bigrangy]

I liked Tanev for a long time

Not sure if I’ll like Tanev from ages 32-36 or whatever this will be. Definitely not a downgrade on the 2nd pair though.

[GioforPM]

Tanev is a mobile defensive defenceman. When was the last time we had one of those (aside from Gio).

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Corral

I do think that the homerism on this board has risen in recent years. If that’s what you want me to say

Neat.
I think it's lazy to assign labels or try to pretend that a community has a singular opinion.
But good for you.