2020/2021 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

^ geez that fourth line looks awful.

Does it?

I'm not a Rinaldo fan but Ryan-Gawdin seems like a good start to a fourth line to me.

[HighLifeMan]

Cody Ceci, Drake Caggiula, and Michael Grabner all on one year deals around 800k

[Heavy Jack]

Ryan out for a pick

Soderberg + Perry in

Gaudreau - Monahan - Lindholm
Tkachuk - Backlund - Mangiapane
Dube - Bennett - Perry
Lucic - Soderberg - Gawdin
Phillips

Giordano - Tanev
Hanifin - Andersson
Valimaki - Kylington
Mackey

Markstrom
Rittich

[Monahammer]

If we could get Soderberg in for 800k a bottom 6 of:

Dube-Bennett-Soderberg
Lucic-Ryan-Gawdin

Seems pretty solid.

[Geeoff]

I wonder if Hamonic would come back on a cheap deal? Teams don't seem to be banging down his door.

[dammage79]

I can't emphasize this enough, we really really do not need hammer back. Look elsewhere.

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

RHS, Big, Character, and PK ability. That is what Treliving said we are looking for.

Scorpion, you may have been right about Soderberg.

Soderberg is a left hand shot.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Soderberg is a left hand shot.

Huh I could have sworn he shot right. My bad!

[djsFlames]

If Hamonic wants to take league min one year contract for a #6 role and work his way back up then sure.

If that's an insulting offer to him then he's welcome to wait for another suitor.

[codynw]

Originally Posted by Geeoff

I wonder if Hamonic would come back on a cheap deal? Teams don't seem to be banging down his door.

I wouldn't be surprised if Hamonic sat the year out. He skipped the playoffs because of covid, and now he's gonna come back despite higher risk with the teams not being in a bubble this time? I don't see it.

[bubbsy]

Originally Posted by howard_the_duck

I keep seeing proposals for prominent RHD like this. People realize we have our top 2 RHD in place with the Tanev signing, right? There’s definitely no way we have Anderson back to the third pair.

If RHD are being added it’s of the 6/7 or PTO variety. Much more attention should go towards upgrading our forward group right now, IMO.

Gaudreau for ekblad gets us a young core player to continue this era of flames around.

I'm personally not of the opinion that 30 year old Tanev is an immediate core member the team is building around. I could see him on any of the 3 pairs to be honest (ie. could see him filling in on Brodie's spot with Giordano, OR having giordano/andersson as the top pair and pairing Hanifin with tanner, OR using tanev as he was used in Vancouver which is as a partner to a young dman, in this case playing with Valimaki).

Given the league's shortage of quality RHD, using Gaudreau to get a possible #1 RHD, and suddenly being RHD-heavy is a situation I'd be more than happy to see the flames be in. Every year, there's more than enough team's in the hunt for RHD.

[Demetric]

Originally Posted by codynw

I wouldn't be surprised if Hamonic sat the year out. He skipped the playoffs because of covid, and now he's gonna come back despite higher risk with the teams not being in a bubble this time? I don't see it.

I concur

[ResAlien]

If Ekblad for Gaudreau is offered Treliving should scream YES YES DONE DEAL NO TAKE BACKS the second he heard it.

[getbak]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Theres a month until the rumored start of training camp. I expect arbitration will pass and then a trade frenzy starts.

That was when December 1 was the target return date. They won't have a 7 week long training camp.

We're about 2 months away from the start of camp if they're aiming for a January 1 return. I wouldn't be surprised to see something similar to what the WHL is doing, with camp opening after Christmas and a return in the second week of January.

[Strange Brew]

Adding Soderberg would be fantastic and gives the team a ton of flexibility. Hard to pencil in Gawdin as a good 4th liner at this point, still yet to play a single NHL game.

[TheScorpion]

There are many many forwards on the market who would likely take 700-800k and be orders of magnitude more effective than Rinaldo.

Otherwise, having Ryan and Gawdin down there sounds terrific

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by ResAlien

If Ekblad for Gaudreau is offered Treliving should scream YES YES DONE DEAL NO TAKE BACKS the second he heard it.

Is Ekblad that good? I honestly haven't heard a lot of noise around the guy since his rookie year.

One of those cases where I'm trying to understand the fixation with that specific player.

[sureLoss]

I think Melker Karlsson could be a target for a PK specialist. He can play all 3 forward positions and is a RHS to boot.

[Classic_Sniper]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

He has been less effective since the all star break last year.
Since then he had a summer to re-group, and then the break between the season pause and the start of the bubble.
And largely we've seen the same thing. A perimeter player who is producing less than he did before.
The sample size is getting larger. So we can continue to wait for his rebound to happen - but we should also ask what if it doesn't.
Sure you can look back at his production since he came into the league, but his production has tailed off for an extended period of time, and those stats match the eye test.
Yes I think he's peaked. Which frankly isn't unusual. A lot of players peak before his current age. Or they don't continue to progress.

Nothing wrong with admitting that and then evaluating what you do then short-term and long-term.

He had a rough 2019 calendar year, there’s no doubt about that, but rebounded quite nicely at the start of 2020. Check the statistics yourself where he was a ppg player once lines stabilized. The eye test matched for me as I thought he was getting closer to form.

Maybe he’s not a 99 point Hart Trophy contender every year like he was in 18-19, but a durable 80 point game breaker who can run a powerplay is more than enough value for his current contract. Honestly, he’s closer to a $10M player than $6.75M and as I demonstrated, he’s one of the top producing even strength players in the game today, so how will this team replace that?

The Flames finished 20th in scoring this season and a big part of that was due in part to Gaudreau’s struggles. Yet in 18-19, the Flames finished 2nd in league scoring which surprise, surprise, happened to coincide with his career year. Basically since his arrival, this team has been very reliant on what he brings to the table and the percentage of his team’s overall goals shows that.

Johnny Gaudreau is not the Calgary Flames’ biggest problem. He’s actually a solution. Minus his current cap hit, this team has $75M in cap space, is the rest of that $75M pulling their weight? That’s a good question. Canadian fanbases are way too hard on their star players and yet people still wonder why Canadian cities end up on so many No Trade lists.

[TheScorpion]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

I think Melker Karlsson could be a target for a PK specialist. He can play all 3 forward positions and is a RHS to boot.

After many years of not having enough RHS forwards in the lineup it would be a hell of a sight to see three on the same line.

Karlsson - Ryan - Gawdin would probably be a good line for sure.