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Old 02-07-2019, 10:24 AM   #21
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Does Tkachuk get an offer sheet?
This concerns me.
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Old 02-07-2019, 10:28 AM   #22
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Does Tkachuk get an offer sheet?
Which teams are able to and are legitimate threats of making an offer sheet?
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Old 02-07-2019, 10:29 AM   #23
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Which teams are able to and are legitimate threats of making an offer sheet?
Sens wanting to reunite the Tkachuk brothers?
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I would expect that to happen. Hopefully, he doesn’t miss much of TC, butI think this is where Treliving can exert some leverage: Tkachuk is a really smart, really observant kid. He no doubt sees how much Nylander’s holdout has affected his season; he must also sense that there is an opportunity here, now with the Flames to make a championship push. These are screws that Treliving can turn.


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I think the quality of the flames team right now would lessen any worry for him if it came to a holdout.
He'd know that the team is good enough to hold the fort until he signed.
he wouldn't have to worry about his absence putting the team in a hole.

I have no idea what he's like. if he's a "just want a chance to win" type of guy or a "I know this is a business and I have to look out for myself" kind of guy.
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Old 02-07-2019, 10:30 AM   #25
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Does Tkachuk get an offer sheet?
Sure, they all do.
But does he sign it? Doubtful.
And the Flames match whatever it is regardless.
He may use it for valuation at best.
So who cares?
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Old 02-07-2019, 10:31 AM   #26
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Quick reference in offer sheet compensation

$1,339,575 or less No compensation
$1,339,576 to $2,029,659 Third-round pick
$2,029,660 to $4,059,322 Second-round pick
$4,059,323 to $6,088,980 First and third-round picks
$6,088,981 to $8,118,641 First, second and third-round picks
$8,118,642 to $10,148,302 Two firsts, a second and third-round picks
Over $10,148,302 Four first-round picks

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Old 02-07-2019, 10:32 AM   #27
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Sens wanting to reunite the Tkachuk brothers?
The Sens would first need to reacquire their 1st round pick from Colorado to make that happen.
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Sens wanting to reunite the Tkachuk brothers?
The owner is not willing to pay up for Stone or Duchene as of yet, but he is willing to pay $10mill+ to offer sheet Tkachuk. It would ruin their supposed rebuild. If I was the Flames I would let them have him and take the draft picks. They would most likely be very high.
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If that tire fire offers you 4 1st's for Tkachuk you take it and laugh all the way to the draft
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Rare major misstep by Treliving not getting this deal done last summer when the media was saying it was close. That said he's done amazing on every other deal he's signed excepting Neal so tough to be too hard on him.

Hardly a misstep. Brad would have signed him if he could. Why would the player sign last year? There was no logical reason for him to do so.



If Tkachuk's agent was doing his job, which he clearly is, then he waits until this summer.
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The Sens would first need to reacquire their 1st round pick from Colorado to make that happen.
Donít the Avs have this years pick? Or do they have 2020s as well?
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Quick reference in offer sheet compensation

$1,339,575 or less No compensation
$1,339,576 to $2,029,659 Third-round pick
$2,029,660 to $4,059,322 Second-round pick
$4,059,323 to $6,088,980 First and third-round picks
$6,088,981 to $8,118,641 First, second and third-round picks
$8,118,642 to $10,148,302 Two firsts, a second and third-round picks
Over $10,148,302 Four first-round picks
I'd give up that for him, but at those numbers, the flames would match in a heartbeat.

so what team has the assets to give up two firsts, a second, and a third, plus take on a $10 million contract?
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The owner is not willing to pay up for Stone or Duchene as of yet, but he is willing to pay $10mill+ to offer sheet Tkachuk. It would ruin their supposed rebuild. If I was the Flames I would let them have him and take the draft picks. They would most likely be very high.
He just said yesterday they want to be a cap team after two years. Going after a young star forward doesnít seem that crazy.

But I agree, Iíd take the picks if the offer sheet was high enough.
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Donít the Avs have this years pick? Or do they have 2020s as well?
Right, compensation would be as of next year's draft.

D'oh.
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The owner is not willing to pay up for Stone or Duchene as of yet, but he is willing to pay $10mill+ to offer sheet Tkachuk. It would ruin their supposed rebuild. If I was the Flames I would let them have him and take the draft picks. They would most likely be very high.
Im not convinced that is the case at this point as i think its far more about the players buying into and sticking around for the rebuild vs just dollars. Its why Melnyk went full public on their "plans" last night at the STH thing. Desperation has settled in there.

As for MT, he bridges at 6.5 for 3 or goes 9+ for 6 is my guess.
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Sens are probably the least threatening team in terms of offer sheets. Remember the player has to actually want to sign it. Also their draft picks are probably going to be lottery picks even if they add a good young player.


A scary team would be St Louis since they aren’t as bad of a team and Tkachuk may actually prefer playing there.
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I see this going well into the season. Having Johnny, Mony, Lindholm as a top line, then Backlund and guys like Neal and Bennett mean that the team can likely float for a while without him. And his dadís history. These comments donít exactly add more information in my mind.

I wonder how his position on the second line plays into it. Facing more difficult competition, worse zone starts, and worse linemates. The only real drawback is the ĎBacklund effectí but thatís tough to use as hard leverage in negotiations.
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I'd give up that for him, but at those numbers, the flames would match in a heartbeat.

so what team has the assets to give up two firsts, a second, and a third, plus take on a $10 million contract?
So at the trade deadline you'd be ok to trade Chucky for a 1st/2nd/3rd?

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Tkachuk saying what he has to, and what he should say.

Also seemed a little uncomfortable with the topic - but nothing really game changing was said at all.
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Which teams are able to and are legitimate threats of making an offer sheet?
Colorado as well.
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