American Politics 3.0 - Back to Brunch

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by calculoso

Welcome to America, where even the Sheriff is elected

Coroners too. In fact, to be elected as a coroner, you don't even need to have medical knowledge. To make it worse, in some areas the sheriff can also be elected coroner. Obviously, this creates a huge conflict of interest when investigating deaths caused by police.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Watching CorsiHockeyLeague and PsYcNeT talk American politics is like watching a monkey trying to #### a football. For the very short-term it can be entertaining, but then you realize the monkey doesn't have clue what it's doing and you quickly acknowledge you should be looking elsewhere for information/entertainment.

[PsYcNeT]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

Watching CorsiHockeyLeague and PsYcNeT talk American politics is like watching a monkey trying to #### a football. For the very short-term it can be entertaining, but then you realize the monkey doesn't have clue what it's doing and you quickly acknowledge you should be looking elsewhere for information/entertainment.

Please grace me with your nuanced and localized opinion on the current state of Trans Rights in both Red States and at the Federal level in the US of A.

I'm always up to learn.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Not worth it. Just ignore him.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

Watching CorsiHockeyLeague and PsYcNeT talk American politics is like watching a monkey trying to #### a football. For the very short-term it can be entertaining, but then you realize the monkey doesn't have clue what it's doing and you quickly acknowledge you should be looking elsewhere for information/entertainment.

At least their posts ARE brief and somewhat entertaining.

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

that law includes circumcision and vasectomies no?

Hopefully circumcisions. It's plainly genital mutilation on an unconsenting person. It's abhorrent.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by rubecube

At least their posts ARE brief and somewhat entertaining.

But sometimes you need someone to repeat a point someone already made with 2000 excessive words.

[jayswin]

Anyone notice LannyMcDonald has been an absolute, ruthless ****ing dick all over the forum suddenly the past few days? And I mean even for his standards, it's been crazy. Like just pure contempt and anger everywhere, I couldn't imagine living like that.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

Please grace me with your nuanced and localized opinion on the current state of Trans Rights in both Red States and at the Federal level in the US of A.

I'm always up to learn.

Trans rights are a red herring culture war issue. There is already governance in place to protect them, it just needs to be enforced judiciously, which is where the problem lay. Governance is to be created so it affects/protects ALL people equally, not protecting one class of people more than another, especially a very small minority. Fix the problem of how laws are written, interpreted, and most importantly enforced, and you fix all problems. In a country where voting, reproductive, and basic constitutional rights are being stripped away for every American, trans rights aren't a priority except for those who want to continue the focus to remain on culture war issues. Fix states rights shenanigans, issues with policing, stacking of the courts, and so on, and this issue (along with others) disappears.

[PsYcNeT]

Setting aside the utopian ideal solution that no one has articulated a comprehensive plan to actually attain, it's the most liberal-brained #### in the world to throw meat to the wolves and shrug against a vulnerable group while allowing the GOP to frogboil their ability to actually exist in a healthy way.

Better things are possible, but you should also seek to attain them while protecting existing rights.

[Cappy]

Originally Posted by devo22

of course. And it would be a totally fair explanation if they didn't have openly racist and xenophobic people in key positions at the same time.

It would be a totally fair explanation if they were in Israel

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

Setting aside the utopian ideal solution that no one has articulated a comprehensive plan to actually attain, it's the most liberal-brained #### in the world to throw meat to the wolves and shrug against a vulnerable group while allowing the GOP to frogboil their ability to actually exist in a healthy way.

Better things are possible, but you should also seek to attain them while protecting existing rights.

Utopian? Demanding that the laws on the books be enforced the way they are written is utopian?

ALL people, including trans people, would be fairly and judiciously if the laws currently on the books were enforced. The problem is states rights and some of the whackadoodle laws passed at the state level. You want to resolve the larger issues of establishing a broad national norm, then the laws in the federal code must supersede those at the state level, because it is the state laws where the problems arise.

I'm going to be frank. Trans people's rights don't register for most people, and for good reason. There are only just over a million people in the country that identify as trans, making them a very small special interest group, so making special laws for them is ridiculous, especially given the circumstances elsewhere. When 160 million people are having control over their body taken from them, or entire races of people numbering in the tens of millions of people are subject to institutionalized racism, or the voting rights of tens of millions of people are being stripped away, creating special laws to protect one very small minority is not an efficient nor responsible way of managing governance. Solve the big problems and the small problems will resolve themselves.

[Street Pharmacist]

Wait. So you can only work on some problems when all others are solved? How do you prioritize then?

[Lanny_McDonald]

Criticality and impact.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

Criticality and impact.

Then I think it's best governments get rid of ministries and the premier tackle each problem individually

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

Then I think it's best governments get rid of ministries and the premier tackle each problem individually

That actually might be more efficient/ effective.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

Then I think it's best governments get rid of ministries and the premier tackle each problem individually

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

That actually might be more efficient/ effective.

How are either of these rational responses to a very straightforward and serious statement. Argue in good faith or don't bother.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

How are either of these rational responses to a very straightforward and serious statement. Argue in good faith or don't bother.

OK dad

[activeStick]

Damn. 20 years ago today.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1622158089788035072

[jayswin]

An atrocity that isn't called one because the victors write the history books, and they're a superpower. The Iraq "war" is one of the most blood boiling, evil undertakings in my lifetime.