Mike Fisher off the rails

[dustygoon]

Originally Posted by Mull

I honestly have no idea what the Bennett trade has to do with my post.

As I said - I saw hockey player news posted it to the hockey sub forum. If that’s wrong .. ok? Not arguing over that just saying it’s in the mods hands now.

There you go again!!! Bennett trade was a mistake and Treliving should be fired and Kylington is nothing without Tanev. Way to go Mull. Way to go.

[Mull]

Originally Posted by dustygoon

There you go again!!! Bennett trade was a mistake and Treliving should be fired and Kylington is nothing without Tanev. Way to go Mull. Way to go.

I admit I don’t understand this reply at all and it’s way over my head

[Geeoff]

WTF I thought there was a new Bennett trade. Are we still talking about the old one where we traded a free agent on an expiring contract that didn't want to be here?

[KootenayFlamesFan]

I had no idea I lost my liberty here. What day did that happen? Nobody told me. Darn.

Anyways, this thread is more political than hockey news so I'll move it to the OT Forum.

[FlamesAddiction]

The truckers in Ottawa were actually taking away the liberty of people who live in Ottawa when the occupied the city.

[Johnny199r]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

The truckers in Ottawa were actually taking away the liberty of people who live in Ottawa when the occupied the city.

Good luck ever getting those truckers to admit it.

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[CliffFletcher]

Fisher is more outspoken than most, but I expect his opinions are privately shared by many NHLers. Around 20 per cent of Canadians and over a third of Americans believe pandemic measures = tyranny, and there’s no reason to believe professional hockey players differ from the general public in that respect.

[Yamer]

Originally Posted by JJolg

He feels how he feels what’s the big deal, lots of people feel similar in Canada now over what’s gone on the last few years. It’s a exaggeration on his part in my opinion but I can see where he’s coming from, if you think things were handled/are being handled well in Canada I’d likely call you a wack job if I met you

The big deal is that there is a significant difference between general dissatisfaction with authorities' handling of a once in a lifetime pandemic and the belief that Canada is entering tyrannical dictatorship. If you spend any small part of your day studying what these people believe you can quickly figure out this had very little to do with mandates and COVID protocols.

[Fighting Banana Slug]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

Fisher is more outspoken than most, but I expect his opinions are privately shared by many NHLers. Around 20 per cent of Canadians and over a third of Americans believe pandemic measures = tyranny, and there’s no reason to believe professional hockey players differ from the general public in that respect.

Even if the 20/30% figures are true, that doesn’t make Fishers’s comments any less irredeemably stupid.

[btimbit]

The whole tyranny and loss of liberty thing is a massive eye-rolling exaggeration, but looking at it from an NHLers point of view, they travel all over the continent, got to live life normally in some places but were pretty much restricted to the hotel in other places.

Still completely idiotic comments

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by btimbit

The whole tyranny and loss of liberty thing is a massive eye-rolling exaggeration, but looking at it from an NHLers point of view, they travel all over the continent, got to live life normally in some places but were pretty much restricted to the hotel in other places.

Still completely idiotic comments

Mike Fisher is not a NHL hockey player, he is just some guy who married a rich lady.

[Mean Mr. Mustard]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

Mike has been a constant fighter for freedom, not just white male grievance liberty either. When Kaepernick was fighting injustice and violations of liberty against black males in the USA, Mike Fisher was there for the fight. When indigenous Canadians were fighting for liberty through Idle No More, Mike Fisher fought for their liberty. Freedom and liberty is not just a cause du jour for these people, it crosses all cultural and ethnic lines.

First, I haven't heard anything about Mike Fisher being an ally for the black or the indigenous community. He could be but I couldn't find anything with a quick google search.

Second, the comparison between being made to wear a mask or whatever people are concerned about anymore and the oppression experienced by marginalized populations is maddening.

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

Mike Fisher is not a NHL hockey player, he is just some guy who married a rich lady.

Are we talking about completely different Mike Fishers?

[Yamer]

Originally Posted by btimbit

Are we talking about completely different Mike Fishers?

When push comes to shove it's all about silly, useless semantics, or the classic "define _____?"

Tiresome rhetoric.

[TherapyforGlencross]

Originally Posted by Mean Mr. Mustard

First, I haven't heard anything about Mike Fisher being an ally for the black or the indigenous community. He could be but I couldn't find anything with a quick google search.

Second, the comparison between being made to wear a mask or whatever people are concerned about anymore and the oppression experienced by marginalized populations is maddening.

A false equivalency for sure. I too tried to look it up, but all I could find was an article saying “Jeff Fisher” refuses to criticize Kaepernick’s kneeling.

Regardless, people are people. I like to think that I understand everyone has emotions and the pandemic was certainly a difficult time for many. However, I have trouble empathizing with professional athletes in their “freedoms” being taken away. Staying in expensive hotels while unable to grab a bite to eat at their favourite restaurant for two or three seasons while still earning millions, give me a break. Players only go to the rink, grab a bite to eat at restaurant (Brad Treliving’s word as per his most recent discussion regarding Huberdeau) and stay in their hotel room during normal times. And I don’t think Fisher was into the partying scene. Regardless, he’s been retired. So, I’d have to think he had the opportunity to enhance his lifestyle during the pandemic if he so desired, unlike the usual folks. Low and behold, we’re back doing the regular stuff.

[getbak]

Fisher hasn't played an NHL game since 2018, so COVID restrictions wouldn't have had any impact on him as a professional athlete.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Mean Mr. Mustard

First, I haven't heard anything about Mike Fisher being an ally for the black or the indigenous community. He could be but I couldn't find anything with a quick google search.

Second, the comparison between being made to wear a mask or whatever people are concerned about anymore and the oppression experienced by marginalized populations is maddening.

I think he was being facetious since Mike Fisher, like many of those suddenly passionate about “freedom” in relation to the pandemic, have spoken up about literally nothing else.

In other words, Fisher is just a selfish loser like the rest of the freedom convoy types. They don’t care about freedom for everyone, they care about being inconvenienced like adult toddlers.

[Mean Mr. Mustard]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

I think he was being facetious since Mike Fisher, like many of those suddenly passionate about “freedom” in relation to the pandemic, have spoken up about literally nothing else.

In other words, Fisher is just a selfish loser like the rest of the freedom convoy types. They don’t care about freedom for everyone, they care about being inconvenienced like adult toddlers.

I'm usually pretty apt at picking up on sarcasm so I feel foolish if that is the case. The sad thing is that I have heard people who do compare the plight of people who have been actually oppressed to their own... Ie "the my body my choice" false equivalency.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by Fighting Banana Slug

Even if the 20/30% figures are true, that doesn’t make Fishers’s comments any less irredeemably stupid.

I didn’t mean to suggest they aren’t stupid. Just pointing out that in all likelihood dozens of NHLers feel the same way he does, they just keep those feelings to themselves.