Matthew Tkachuk & Johnny Gaudreau Signing Watch Thread

[browna]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

If Gaudreau signs elsewhere and the Flames get nothing that is BT's fault.

If Gaudreau told Treliving there was zero chance he was going to sign here everytime they asked him for the last calender year and a half, and proved it further over the months before the trade deadline, by going off and selling his condo, moved his things out, then it's Treliving's fault.

Outside of that, no.

There was a lot of this hand wringing about him like this when Conroy convinced him to sign and forego BC, and for his last deal which went to the wire. The longer it goes on, the more people needlessly get worked up into a lather about the whole situation.

This is Gaudreau's personal and life decision. He will never spend the money he would get from the Flames or any other team from this deal. It's strictly where he wants to spend the next 7+ years of his life playing hockey and starting a family. Full stop.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

If Gaudreau signs elsewhere and the Flames get nothing that is BT's fault.

It's really not, because it is not always realistic to move every player for assets. Treliving could have done it last summer, but only at a massive risk, and in direct conflict with the first priority of both him and Gaudreau to sign him to a long term extension. The right circumstance to move a player is if the GM is fairly certain he cannot or should not re-sign him, and that is not something that ever happened for Gaudreau in Calgary. The problem last summer was accurately determining his value, which is why they could not come to terms in time.

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[Heavy Jack]

I don’t know why but I could have sworn that used to say ‘NJ/Calgary’ instead of ‘NJ/Boston’ … anyone recollect?

[mile]

No, it's always said NJ/Boston on his Twitter, he never bothered to change it. Here's a 2013 link: https://web.archive.org/web/20131018...johngaudreau03

Players are more active on Instagram anyways and his Instagram profile says NJ/Calgary

[PepsiFree]

I love when we get to the “Scooby Doo” phase of anxiety where people end up searching for the most random clues to try to get a read on what players will do.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

I love when we get to the “Scooby Doo” phase of anxiety where people end up searching for the most random clues to try to get a read on what players will do.

Zoinks!

[Hockey_Ninja]

Originally Posted by Heavy Jack

I don’t know why but I could have sworn that used to say ‘NJ/Calgary’ instead of ‘NJ/Boston’ … anyone recollect?

Yeah you’re reaching right now

[Heavy Jack]

Lol not meaning to ‘reach’ just genuinely remembered ‘NJ/Calgary’ and it being on instagram is where I remembered it. I generally don’t follow twitter as it’s a cesspool but admittedly am following the Johnny Gaudreau feed and noticed that so questioned it. I mean if your not nervous about the Gaudreau situation then you’re not a diehard imo and that’s fine, to each their own. I’m hopeful that he still signs but it becomes more nerve racking with each passing day, really want more Gaudreau moments dammit!

[Heavy Jack]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Zoinks!

Soooo hoping there isn’t a ‘ruhhh rohhhh’ moment with this thread lol!

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Heavy Jack

I mean if your not nervous about the Gaudreau situation then you’re not a diehard imo and that’s fine, to each their own.

You're projecting. There are lots of fans who love the Flames as much as you or anyone else, but have also come to realize that the whole thing is completely out of our control, life will go on, and we will all be just fine. One's level of panic is not a measure of their commitment.

I’m hopeful that he still signs but it becomes more nerve racking with each passing day, really want more Gaudreau moments dammit!

You should relax, because nothing is going to happen until the SCF is over.


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[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

You should relax, because nothing is going to happen until the SCF is over.


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Teams seem to be kind of active right now. Why couldn't a deal get announced any day?

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

If Gaudreau signs elsewhere and the Flames get nothing that is BT's fault.

You were probably the most vocal opponent anytime the notion of trading Gaudreau was raised...maybe instead of pointing fingers you should be looking in to where you could source a big helping of gourmet crow...

[Heavy Jack]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

You're projecting. There are lots of fans who love the Flames as much as you or anyone else, but have also come to realize that the whole thing is completely out of our control, life will go on, and we will all be just fine. One's level of panic is not a measure of their commitment.


You should relax, because nothing is going to happen until the SCF is over.


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Hey man all in all I get it’s just a game and that no matter how I feel on it what will happen will happen, that’s life… I just really hope Johnny stays that’s all, more over just can’t wait for the off-season to start and the Johnny decision to come because he’s been ‘leaving’ here for years according to many, I’m just shocked that it’s that time already when the decision actually happens, feels like it was yesterday he signed the 6 year extension. I think you’re right though and nothing will happen until after the SCF thinking more on it… so I shall stall my nervousness!

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Teams seem to be kind of active right now. Why couldn't a deal get announced any day?

There is the belief that teams like to wait for major news during the SCFs so that they can have more media focus on them, as well as to respect the teams in the finals to not take any spotlight off them.

I don't know how true it is, but it does seem like teams sometimes wait until after the finals to make big announcements. Could just be a coincidence.

[activeStick]

It's the classy thing to do IMO. Give these two teams their time to shine.

[Trojan97]

I get the sentiment but I feel like the days of the league shutting down during the finals are over. If you can get the deal done during the finals you do it (I doubt it's been a holdup regardless).

[Strange Brew]

And the days of keeping things secret are gone too. Trades are being made, coaches getting hired. If Gaudreau comes to an agreement, we will hear about it.

[browna]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

And the days of keeping things secret are gone too. Trades are being made, coaches getting hired. If Gaudreau comes to an agreement, we will hear about it.

Knights decide to leak that Cassidy info likely to chagrin of league. Someone's agent leaked the Torts stuff but Flyers likely not to confirm until post finals.

Flames have always been tightlipped in whatever they do, it doesn't get to the Dreger's or Weekes until it is imminently occuring and then it's usually Friedman. Of course Flames have been tighlipped, outside of the dark days of the former GM who never met a microphone or inside source that he didn't like.

JGs agent has been in lockstep with the Flames this entire time, and there has been no negotiating in the press or back and forth over the years. Hacks like Francis try and stir the pot and blur the line between opinion, speculation and facts, but that's outside noise. I don't see either side starting to get loose lips now.

I think outside of a the club announcing a presser in 2h time, will anything start to leak that he's signed.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

The Flames are not heading into a rebuild this summer if they lose Gaudreau. Potentially next year once Sutter's deal expires, but there is no way the pull the trigger now. If Gaudreau moves on, the Flames will fill holes via UFA and trades, and see how the season turns out. If there is a rebuild on the horizon, the earliest it happens is TD 2023.

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That is so utterly, depressingly accurate to read that I really hope Johnny re-signs, based on the fact that this is not an ownership group that will make the right decision.

We'll end up re-signing Tkachuk and everyone still on the team that needs a contract for really close to the cap, and then we're the 2021/22 Flames minus their superstar best player.

[jayswin]

I'd be more okay with Johnny moving on if I thought we'd re-coup some assets and go for a mini rebuild/retool. But this franchise just doesn't do that unless punched in the face with a team that can no longer compete (Iginla trade era).

We would 100% flail around with a bubble team. Signing mediocre, middling bull**** free agents that decide they'll sign here because we're willing to pay more for not being a desired landing spot.