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Old 06-12-2020, 03:55 AM   #21
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Yup that was painful. Watched it a couple days ago and have been thinking about it since. :P Well made video, but it definitely hurts.
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Old 06-12-2020, 08:02 AM   #22
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I refuse to ever watch Game 6 or any related materials therein. No reason to tear open and then pour salt into old wounds.
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Old 06-12-2020, 09:27 AM   #23
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Although this memory is painful... but man, those few months in 2004 were some of the best in my entire life. I was 19 at the time, I had gone to my very first Flames game that year(I moved to Calgary at 13) - a tie vs. Nashville. The city was absolutely electric. Flags on every car. Every game had such weight, such excitement to it. The red mile was incredible - I was able to go to the series clinching win against San Jose... that was the best live sports event I have ever experienced... sorry for the stream of consciousness, but what a time that was.
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I got chills watching the part with Iggy's bucketless shift. Love it
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Old 06-12-2020, 09:44 AM   #25
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It's ok, we'll get there again!
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Old 06-12-2020, 09:46 AM   #26
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The puck hopped and the angle is forcing perspective. No goal.
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Old 06-12-2020, 09:52 AM   #27
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Someone remind me, but I was really upset about this because there did not appear to be any response from the NHL in Toronto to the goal, besides a brief moment. How long did the NHL actually spend analyzing if this was a goal? If my memory is correct, the NHL quickly brushed this off and the game continued.
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Old 06-12-2020, 10:30 AM   #28
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Someone remind me, but I was really upset about this because there did not appear to be any response from the NHL in Toronto to the goal, besides a brief moment. How long did the NHL actually spend analyzing if this was a goal? If my memory is correct, the NHL quickly brushed this off and the game continued.
As I can recall, the play happened so quickly that no one even suspected it might have been a goal in the moment. You can see in the play-calls that neither the NBC nor the CBC crew thought anything different than that Khabibuklin made a great save; the players clearly didn't think it was a goal either. Speculation did not occur until the NBC crew went to see the replay, and I suspect it was around that point that the NHL also went back to look at their camera views.
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Old 06-12-2020, 10:36 AM   #29
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As I can recall, the play happened so quickly that no one even suspected it might have been a goal in the moment. You can see in the play-calls that neither the NBC nor the CBC crew thought anything different than that Khabibuklin made a great save; the players clearly didn't think it was a goal either. Speculation did not occur until the NBC crew went to see the replay, and I suspect it was around that point that the NHL also went back to look at their camera views.
I was at the game and sitting behind (and to the side) of the Tampa net (not right behind- in the upper deck)


dude next to me had a camera with him, and was for some reason shooting pics as the play got close to the net, I actually remember thinking to myself right away- did that go in? of course buddy and I tried to make sense of his Zapruder quality film footage, but no dice- we were miles away and obscured by Khabibulin


Nevertheless other than a few oooos in the audience nothing to note (this is of course well before widespread smart phones) so those of us in the rink were none the wiser about what ultimately was shown on TV...until the intermission, where I recall enjoying a nervous moment or two with Bingo et al in the concourse and the cell phones started ringing with friends from home saying 'you won't believe what they just showed..'
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Old 06-12-2020, 11:57 AM   #32
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Steve's Dang Its is a pretty good show. The one where he goes off on the leafs for losing to the Zamboni driver emergency backup goalie is pretty hilarious.



oh...and it was in!
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Old 06-12-2020, 02:31 PM   #33
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I hate you.

I needed to feel despair and hopelessness during a pandemic.

Yes....this is home.
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Old 06-12-2020, 05:13 PM   #34
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The thing that hurts my soul the most about this is that we were robbed of the very thing why sports are so important to many of us. That feeling of hope and destiny, that something bigger is going on regardless of your views on the afterlife or religion.

Thinking back on this now my mind immediately goes to Dee Gordon hitting a homerun in the first game after Jose Fernandez died in that boating accident. That was his only home run of the season... it was like it was meant to be.

These are the kinds of things you see so often in sports. Whether it is just a straight up coincidence or not, its why we love sports.

I can't help but feel that the Flames winning, on yet another goal by Martin Gelinas, was what was meant to happen that year. And it was stolen from us.

still hurts

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The thing that hurts my soul the most about this is that we were robbed of the very thing why sports are so important to many of us. That feeling of hope and destiny, that something bigger is going on regardless of your views on the afterlife or religion.

Thinking back on this now my mind immediately goes to Dee Gordon hitting a homerun in the first game after Jose Fernandez died in that boating accident. That was his only home run of the season... it was like it was meant to be.

These are the kinds of things you see so often in sports. Whether it is just a straight up coincidence or not, its why we love sports.

I can't help but feel that the Flames winning, on yet another goal by Martin Gelinas, was what was meant to happen that year. And it was stolen from us.

still hurts
Just like we were meant to be the first team to beat 4 division champs en route to a cup victory.

It was a team of destiny.

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Shouldn't we be the ones desperately reaching? That little graphic was terrible, though not that it matters. It was nestled about as tightly as you can get to his pad, in which case it's a goal. If it was magically floating half a foot in the air like they say, there would've been nothing to stop it from going in, in which case it's a goal. I WISH it was where they're saying it was, because it would be undisputed. Sorry haters. No way to spin it.

EDIT: Now that I'm looking at it, parallax could only help it. The further up and left it goes, the more room it has to go in as long as it has forward momentum, which it does. So... it couldn't have NOT been a goal...

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Old 06-13-2020, 01:51 AM   #37
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Nobody in a million years will ever convince me that the Sam Bennett shot against the Ducks stayed out of the net. The 2004 one is close enough that it could go either way, but Bennett scored for sure.
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Nobody in a million years will ever convince me that the Sam Bennett shot against the Ducks stayed out of the net. The 2004 one is close enough that it could go either way, but Bennett scored for sure.
The Flames made a video after that goal using the same camera and placing the puck in the same location then moving the other cameras and proved it was in and sent it to the league to pretty much be like “you need to figure this stuff out”. It was never released to the public though unfortunately. Was a cool video.
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Old 06-13-2020, 09:03 AM   #40
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Here's a question someone may have figured 9ut at some point- is the frame we all look at from before the puck hits the pad, or after? That is, is the puck on its way in, or out, at that point?
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