[News] Predators hire Andrew Brunette as Head Coach

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by flamesfan55

Curious as I don't actually know the answer. Wouldn't Tanguay have to be promoted to come to Calgary? Isn't he already an associate coach in Detroit? Don't think he can just leave that role without a promotion??

Tanguay is an assistant coach in Detroit. An associate would be a promotion.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Buff

Curious... Do teams ever have more than one Associate coach? Until I saw this I just assumed they only had one associate coach, if they had one.

I think Associate Coach is generally a title handed out to show career progression - making it easier to take an assistant from another team. Believe we did it with Ward, who was an Assistant Coach with New Jersey, but became an Associate Coach with us.

Not sure why they don’t just go with “Sr. Assistant Coach”, but whatever.

Not sure if teams have employed more than one Associate at a time.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Ya snooze, ya lose.

[ben voyonsdonc]

I know that Brunette had appeal because of his relationship with Huberdeau but I thought someone on 960 said it well when they explained that maybe handpicking (or being seen as handpicking) the Head Coach to make Huberdeau happy actually could put a bunch of additional pressure on him.

I think finding a guy who has a clear vision for how he wants to help Huberdeau thrive as a Flame and within the confines of the teammates that he has here is a better outcome than hiring a guy who is seen as Huberdeau’s personal choice. Brunette’s system might have helped Huberdeau achieve his success in his time as a Panther but there’s no real guarantee that it will perfectly translate here with the makeup of the team and the team would have heaped a bunch of additional pressure on Huberdeau’s shoulders.

[greyshep]

Well thats disappointing. Was hoping to see Brunette land here.

[midniteowl]

Originally Posted by dammage79

I've got it down to Love or Tanguay. Dark Horses, Gallant or Roy.

Love or Tanguay --


Gallant or Roy --

[Goriders]

There’s a lot of smoke around Gallant. Wouldn’t be surprised if it’s him.

[Sidney Crosby's Hat]

Originally Posted by ben voyonsdonc

I know that Brunette had appeal because of his relationship with Huberdeau but I thought someone on 960 said it well when they explained that maybe handpicking (or being seen as handpicking) the Head Coach to make Huberdeau happy actually could put a bunch of additional pressure on him.

I think finding a guy who has a clear vision for how he wants to help Huberdeau thrive as a Flame and within the confines of the teammates that he has here is a better outcome than hiring a guy who is seen as Huberdeau’s personal choice. Brunette’s system might have helped Huberdeau achieve his success in his time as a Panther but there’s no real guarantee that it will perfectly translate here with the makeup of the team and the team would have heaped a bunch of additional pressure on Huberdeau’s shoulders.

Yes, I agree. One example of this is how Keenan was a huge flop in Vancouver after he was brought in to try and spark Messier.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by dammage79

We don't know his contract situation. Is the a cap friendly for coaches?

CF lists some coaches salaries but it can only go by reported info.

[DoubleK]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

Gotta feel for Hynes but his days were numbered with a new GM.

Nashville kinda did him dirty. Nashville had brutal injuries this year and they were playing meaningful games late into the season.

He will get another shot in the NHL.

[oldschoolcalgary]

Treliving's biggest failing was the inability to identify and hire the right coach.

I was hoping for Brunette, but Conroy wasn't able to convince him or got the call too late.... it is what it is.

Just need to ensure this is a good hire. Gallant isn't the guy, imo, due to him wearing out his welcome...and he's 'old school' so closer to Sutter than Jon Cooper... not sure if that is the right coach to turn to next.

[Roof-Daddy]

Gallant IS a guy that could possibly get this team back to 100+ points and you know he wouldn't be in over his head when it comes to managing an NHL bench and making in game decisions.

How is he with young players? Any track record there?

He also has history with Hubs and Weegs. If they sign off on it, might not be a bad hire to facilitate a bounce back.

And you can still promote love to the NHL as an assistant and get him some valuable experience, keep him from jumping ship and still have that familiarity with young players coming up from the farm.

I'm kinda talking myself into Gallant o be honest.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

I think Associate Coach is generally a title handed out to show career progression - making it easier to take an assistant from another team. Believe we did it with Ward, who was an Assistant Coach with New Jersey, but became an Associate Coach with us.

Not sure why they don’t just go with “Sr. Assistant Coach”, but whatever.

Not sure if teams have employed more than one Associate at a time.

It probably varies by franchise and who the head coach is, but I think it is often the case where associate coaches get paid more, and get more responsibilities.

[dustygoon]

Great point about pressure on Huberdeau. That was Eric Francis positing that.

Huberdeau doesn’t need a coach to hold his hand. He has been unsuccessful under one coach. That was Sutter. Guy has had several coaches and improved and/or thrived under each. He’s a stud with one bad year.

[taxbuster]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Gallant IS a guy that could possibly get this team back to 100+ points and you know he wouldn't be in over his head when it comes to managing an NHL bench and making in game decisions.

How is he with young players? Any track record there?

He also has history with Hubs and Weegs. If they sign off on it, might not be a bad hire to facilitate a bounce back.

And you can still promote love to the NHL as an assistant and get him some valuable experience, keep him from jumping ship and still have that familiarity with young players coming up from the farm.

I'm kinda talking myself into Gallant o be honest.

Re: the bolded part. No. Absolute hard no from me. That really is allowing the inmates to run the asylum. Soliciting an opinion is one thing, but what this team badly needs is actual "management" and "direction".

It needs Management to have a vision, choose the personnel they think can execute their vision, and work it. It's not the players' place to pick the vision they like best and the people they like best...and if they don't like it, as much as it looks like a train wreck from the outside....trade 'em if you can, or sit with the problem the prior group created until it falls apart. Terrible from a fan perspective, but the owner made his choice(s). Too bad if he doesn't like the results now.

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by taxbuster

Re: the bolded part. No. Absolute hard no from me. That really is allowing the inmates to run the asylum. Soliciting an opinion is one thing, but what this team badly needs is actual "management" and "direction".

It needs Management to have a vision, choose the personnel they think can execute their vision, and work it. It's not the players' place to pick the vision they like best and the people they like best...and if they don't like it, as much as it looks like a train wreck from the outside....trade 'em if you can, or sit with the problem the prior group created until it falls apart. Terrible from a fan perspective, but the owner made his choice(s). Too bad if he doesn't like the results now.

Yeah, "sign off on it" was poor phrasing.

I just meant find out if they thought he was a good coach and not a total A hole. You literally cannot hire a coach the players hate after what just happened with Sutter this past season.

[Sidney Crosby's Hat]

People talk about Gallant wearing out his welcome but did he really in New York? They had a pretty great regular season and the Devils series could have gone either way. Their owner is a bit of a nutcase and I'd say that was more the reason for the change there.

The bigger question with him is if you want structure or not. Gallant really just lets the players play. That seems to often have success early on. The other question is, do the Flames have a window right now or not? If you think they do, he could probably get the most out of it for the next 2-3 years.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Sidney Crosby's Hat

People talk about Gallant wearing out his welcome but did he really in New York? They had a pretty great regular season and the Devils series could have gone either way. Their owner is a bit of a nutcase and I'd say that was more the reason for the change there.

The bigger question with him is if you want structure or not. Gallant really just lets the players play. That seems to often have success early on. The other question is, do the Flames have a window right now or not? If you think they do, he could probably get the most out of it for the next 2-3 years.

With Gallant, it seems to be more an issue of how he gets along with management, not the players.

[DazzlinDino]

Originally Posted by oldschoolcalgary

Treliving's biggest failing was the inability to identify and hire the right coach.

I was hoping for Brunette, but Conroy wasn't able to convince him or got the call too late.... it is what it is.

Just need to ensure this is a good hire. Gallant isn't the guy, imo, due to him wearing out his welcome...and he's 'old school' so closer to Sutter than Jon Cooper... not sure if that is the right coach to turn to next.

Treliving could have gained a ton of insight if he had done extensive interviews. Just hiring people that he has had conversations with or gut feelings about left him without a treasure trove of information. The way the Flames are doing it now has people coming to the fFames from different teams, and organizations from all levels. It will be pretty hard for people to blame Conroy if the coaching the hires don't work as well as they should, At least you know that he's taking the time to exhaust every search.

[Ped]

Originally Posted by Sidney Crosby's Hat

People talk about Gallant wearing out his welcome but did he really in New York? They had a pretty great regular season and the Devils series could have gone either way. Their owner is a bit of a nutcase and I'd say that was more the reason for the change there.

The bigger question with him is if you want structure or not. Gallant really just lets the players play. That seems to often have success early on. The other question is, do the Flames have a window right now or not? If you think they do, he could probably get the most out of it for the next 2-3 years.

I thought I read that part of New York's decision to part ways with Gallant was the exit interviews from the players.