01-18-2018, 08:28 AM
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#1001
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Originally Posted by Barnet Flame
I know I was only 13 when our vice principal announced over the school intercom that there was important news from overseas. Calgary had been selected to host the 1988 Winter Olympics.
But the magic seems to have faded somewhat for a future games.
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I had the exact same experience. It is a very cool memory.
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01-18-2018, 10:05 AM
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#1002
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Barnet Flame
I know I was only 13 when our vice principal announced over the school intercom that there was important news from overseas. Calgary had been selected to host the 1988 Winter Olympics.
But the magic seems to have faded somewhat for a future games.
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The 88 Olympics validated Calgary as a world class city. Now that that is established and there is nothing to prove it becomes a more business like decision rather than an emotional one.
Something along those lines.
I think a partnership with Edmonton makes a lot of sense, the cities are close and the only downside is that it might not help get Calgary an arena. Skiing at Whistler would be a big negative for the financial side of things.
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01-18-2018, 10:23 AM
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#1003
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
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I came into this thread to break the news. One of them was on my flight yesterday and I overheard his conversation with an American businessman. He said he was IOC coming to evaluate Calgary's bid.
He said Calgary had a "strong" chance because they hosted a very successful '88 games.
So there's that.
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01-18-2018, 10:30 AM
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#1004
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So we're out of the running for Amazon HQ2.
Olympics = Plan B?!?
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01-18-2018, 10:53 AM
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#1005
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Location: Auckland, NZ
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I like the idea of updated / renovated / new sports facilities that benefit our community through hosting the Games. Calgary (and area) is a mecca for winter sports training and healthy living, and being able to serve the citizens with health-oriented, high quality facilities combined with the ability to more regularly attract international events and tournaments (speed skating, biathlon, figure skating, curling, etc.) would help several economies in this area. Calgary has a high potential to capitalize on the sports and recreation industries, particularly at a time when we're looking to diversify our economy.
This is also one of the more tangible, serious ways to get the arena /stadium issue sorted out too.
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01-18-2018, 12:03 PM
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#1006
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All the talk about it being a Nenshi 'legacy piece' is a bit baffling to me. He almost certainly won't be around as the current mayor by 2026. Who knows if he'll still even live in the city.
Klein was mayor from bid through to after Olympics happened - does anyone associate '88 as his legacy piece? Maybe they did in the early 90's before he did so much other stuff?
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01-18-2018, 01:20 PM
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#1007
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tvp2003
So we're out of the running for Amazon HQ2.
Olympics = Plan B?!?
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Plan B for what? It's a two week spending spree against a permanent economic foothold and source of employment. What's the comparable?
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01-18-2018, 04:42 PM
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#1008
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by powderjunkie
All the talk about it being a Nenshi 'legacy piece' is a bit baffling to me. He almost certainly won't be around as the current mayor by 2026. Who knows if he'll still even live in the city.
Klein was mayor from bid through to after Olympics happened - does anyone associate '88 as his legacy piece? Maybe they did in the early 90's before he did so much other stuff?
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Klein wasn't mayor for the bid but was during the construction and hosting.
From word of mouth that is generally part of his legacy.
However, according to Frank King's book he was actually quite a hindrance to getting things done.
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01-18-2018, 04:47 PM
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#1009
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by pylon
It wouldn't put it behind Nenshi, if anything just to stick it to the Flames owners.
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How much power do you think one man who isn’t on arena negotiating committee has? And vindicative at cost of many of his constituents?
That’s some poor business acumen, to feel he’d act that way.
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01-20-2018, 11:36 AM
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#1010
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Originally Posted by Joborule
Assuming Calgary also includes a twin arena with their fieldhouse, it would be about the same size and capacity as U of A's one would imagine since U of C would be using it. But when it comes to figure skating, it's one of the biggest events. I don't think an arena under, say, 8K would be suffice.
If Calgary hosts all the events, the Saddledome would still have to be used for figure skating. So even if this was a shared bid, and hockey games would occur in Edmonton, the Saddledome would still be used. Even if the IOC didn't like the quality of the venue.
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Edmonton will get Curling and Short Track. Host 'City' would never give up hockey and figure skating.
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01-23-2018, 12:41 PM
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#1011
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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Andrew Brown @browncbc
The IOC views the Saddledome as acceptable for Olympic hockey and figure skating, according to director of Calgary Olympic bid Kyle Ripley.
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01-23-2018, 12:43 PM
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#1012
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by sureloss
andrew brown @browncbc
the ioc views the saddledome as acceptable for olympic hockey and figure skating, according to director of calgary olympic bid kyle ripley.
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booooooo
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01-23-2018, 12:43 PM
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#1013
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That should stop any talk from Edmonton being a part of this.
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Originally Posted by calgaryblood
Looks like you'll need one long before I will. May I suggest deflection king?
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01-23-2018, 12:44 PM
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#1014
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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The owners & the NHL just aren't getting any help in this. Too funny.
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01-23-2018, 12:44 PM
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#1015
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Scoring Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
Andrew Brown @browncbc
The IOC views the Saddledome as acceptable for Olympic hockey and figure skating, according to director of Calgary Olympic bid Kyle Ripley.
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Hopefully in the same capacity the Pacific Coliseum was “acceptable”.
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01-23-2018, 12:48 PM
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#1016
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
Andrew Brown @browncbc
The IOC views the Saddledome as acceptable for Olympic hockey and figure skating, according to director of Calgary Olympic bid Kyle Ripley.
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The associated article: https://www.tsn.ca/city-director-ioc...-2026-1.976428
Forgive me since I haven't been to COP in forever, what exactly about the ski jumping facilities make them unsuitable? Considering that the IOC is now saying that even the Olympic Oval is an acceptable venue as-is, what about the ski jump towers makes them so prohibitively expensive to doctor up at some point within the next nearly-a-decade for a few niche events that it's easier/cheaper to balloon security costs by moving it all to Whistler?
Wasn't the whole point of even entertaining the notion of a bid that it'd be cheap and reuse all that existing infastructure? If it can't do those things why put forward a bid in the first place?
Last edited by CorbeauNoir; 01-23-2018 at 12:50 PM.
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01-23-2018, 12:50 PM
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#1017
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CorbeauNoir
The associated article: https://www.tsn.ca/city-director-ioc...-2026-1.976428
Forgive me since I haven't been to COP in forever, what exactly about the ski jumping facilities make them unsuitable? Considering that the IOC is now saying that even the Olympic Oval is an acceptable venue as-is, what about the ski jump towers makes them so prohibitively expensive to doctor up at some point within the next nearly-a-decade for a few niche events that it's easier/cheaper to balloon security costs by moving it all to Whistler?
Wasn't the whole point of even entertaining the notion of a bid that it'd be cheap and reuse all that existing infastructure?
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IIRC the Ski Jump the athletes can clear the max distance the one at COP is setup for.
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01-23-2018, 12:50 PM
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#1018
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Scoring Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CorbeauNoir
The associated article: https://www.tsn.ca/city-director-ioc...-2026-1.976428
Forgive me since I haven't been to COP in forever, what exactly about the ski jumping facilities make them unsuitable? Considering that the IOC is now saying that even the Olympic Oval is an acceptable venue as-is, what about the ski jump towers makes them so prohibitively expensive to doctor up at some point within the next nearly-a-decade for a few niche events that it's easier/cheaper to balloon security costs by moving it all to Whistler?
Wasn't the whole point of even entertaining the notion of a bid that it'd be cheap and reuse all that existing infastructure?
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They are too small, and increasing the height doesn’t work because there isn’t sufficient room to build a longer landing zone.
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01-23-2018, 12:54 PM
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#1019
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Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer
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Also the jump was built in the teeth of the prevailing west winds.
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01-23-2018, 01:22 PM
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#1020
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Violating Copyrights
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CorbeauNoir
The associated article: https://www.tsn.ca/city-director-ioc...-2026-1.976428
Forgive me since I haven't been to COP in forever, what exactly about the ski jumping facilities make them unsuitable? Considering that the IOC is now saying that even the Olympic Oval is an acceptable venue as-is, what about the ski jump towers makes them so prohibitively expensive to doctor up at some point within the next nearly-a-decade for a few niche events that it's easier/cheaper to balloon security costs by moving it all to Whistler?
Wasn't the whole point of even entertaining the notion of a bid that it'd be cheap and reuse all that existing infastructure? If it can't do those things why put forward a bid in the first place?
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Considering they were barely suitable in 1988 because athletes jump into a cross wind, it's not big enough anymore. Our largest hill is the same size as the normal hill in Sochi.
They would have to redo the entire slope and landing area, and possibly move Canada Olympic Drive. Rebuild the seating area as it is collapsing and then you would still have the crosswind issues to deal with. May as well start over or send the event elsewhere.
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