The Ongoing Dog Attack Mega-Thread

[bizaro86]

So what will happen with those dogs? Anything?

[Zee]

The pit bull is not a more violent dog than any other, but it is very damaging when it does attack. The bigger issue is the type of owner a pit bull attracts. Many of these people are not looking for a gentle dog. A breed ban is not a condemnation of pit bulls, rather, it is more a condemnation of those that refuse to socialize these animals properly, because we all know what happens when this dog is improperly brought up. They are big, strong dogs, and are capable of inflicting severe damage and even death. So, even though I think the breed of dog itself is not a problem, I would support a breed ban because it is really the only way to keep these dogs out of the hands of those that should not own them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daddy_%28dog%29

[chemgear]

http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/ca...388/story.html

A Calgary woman, whose two pit bull dogs have been on death row for more than four months after being declared dangerous for biting a woman in the face, is appealing the traffic court judge’s decision to have them euthanized.

Donna Tran filed her notice of appeal with Court of Queen’s Bench to overturn commissioner Jill Taylor’s June 15 ruling and it is scheduled to be heard during summary conviction appeals on Nov. 2.

In her appeal, Tran says Taylor “gave too much weight to Nikeae Michalchuk’s expert evidence in assessing the dogs’ behaviour without giving consideration to the context and environment in which the report was created.”

[Calgary4LIfe]

Breed-specific legislation does not work. I think at one time, Italy had 92 breeds that were banned. Now they are back to ZERO.

Ban Pitbulls today, and these stupid owners will just move on to Rottweilers, Cane Corsos, Dogo Canarios, etc., etc.. As more attacks pop up of a certain breed of dog because these idiotic owners flock to them, then they will simply be added to the list. Take a look at the history of breeds being banned in Italy back in the day - you see a 'pattern' evolving. Targeting the breed is not only 'wrong', but USELESS.

Pitbulls 'are' (mostly were, as this is now thankfully illegal) a fighting breed. Sounds scary to you? You shouldn't be. Well true that Pitbulls have a bit more animal aggression (meaning they will naturally want to fight other dogs/animals - though it can be 100% corrected!!), they also have DECREASED aggression towards humans (which makes them lousy guard dogs). They were bred to fight in the ring, but if one ever turned on its' owner and bit him while they were getting the dogs separated, what do you think would happen? Aggression towards humans were actually bred out of this dog (again, why they make such poor guard dogs - and why you see the 'bluenose pitbulls' which are actually a x-breed with a pitbull and a neopolitan mastiff, which IS a guard dog).

I personally love the bully breeds - pitbulls included - as I find their over-sized heads really cute. Sure, they can look intimidating, but to each their own - I find them rather cute, and their personality is 'warm'. Pitbulls are also recommended as children's dogs - they can tolerate 'abuse' much better than other dogs as their pain threshold is higher, so they won't snap back at a kid right away in defence as a lot of dogs will (especially toy dogs or the more 'fragile' breeds - Dobermans are NOT recommended from what I remember for exactly this reason.).

Leash-laws + licensing (which keeps track of the owners and any 'incidents') is the way to go. start banning breeds, and you will be surprised how far it goes.

http://www.examiner.com/article/bree...iling-globally

Do a little research, get informed, and you will quickly see how the 'media hype' makes you believe something that isn't true. Just search out statistics and compare. Going after the owners is the ONLY responsible and fair thing to do.

I don't own any dogs right now, but just because a few jack-@@@@ were horrible owners, shouldn't dictate what dogs I can or can't own (and I have kept 3 in my lifetime, never having a single incident).

Sorry if this is yet another post that has been covered a lot already - I just started reading this thread on the last page.

[mrvee]

If dogs are raised in a violent home enviroment they tend to follow.

[bizaro86]

Originally Posted by corporatejay

http://calgary.ctvnews.ca/one-dog-ta...ttack-1.943657

Is there any way to find out what happened to these dogs? I live in the immediate vicinity, and having dogs that have attacked humans owned by someone who can't keep them in the yard doesn't exactly give me the warm fuzzies.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by mrvee

If dogs are raised in a violent home enviroment they tend to follow.

There seem to be news stories all the time about dogs that attack and the owners are shocked because they were never mistreated.

I have one friend who was attacked by another friend's German Shepherd back when we were 12. The dog practically ripped his ear right off.

This was a dog that we all knew well and played with. It was from a good home, but for whatever reason, that day something was stuck in it's craw.

Dogs are animals of pretty high intelligence and like humans, are complicated. Some humans, no matter how well they are raised, are just complete jerks. I believe the same thing is true with dogs. The question for me is, are there sometimes have genetic links? I believe that sometimes they are and certain breeds are more like to "snap". That's not to say that all pitbulls will eventually snap despite being raised well, but I just don't see why anyone would risk it. The fact that it happens at all and that they are capable of terrible damage, should be enough to not get one.

[Bertuzzied]

Another one. German shepard bites toddlers face after he steps on his tail

http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/ca...653/story.html

[chemgear]

Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

Breed-specific legislation does not work. I think at one time, Italy had 92 breeds that were banned. Now they are back to ZERO.

These are the same guys that just convicted a bunch of scientists of murder/manslaughter for not predicting an earthquake? Hmmm, not sure I'd want to follow them.

[Rerun]

Everybody is picking on dogs. What about the vicious Canadian Moose?

http://bc.ctvnews.ca/moose-injures-m...cons-1.1010805

A B.C. Mountie is tending to a bruised shoulder after going toe-to-hoof with a fellow icon of Canadian culture Thursday morning.
The Prince George RCMP officer was typing a report in his parked police cruiser at around 1 a.m. when he spotted two moose crossing a nearby intersection.
“The officer also observed an oncoming vehicle coming towards them,” said Cpl. Craig Douglass. “He pulled his vehicle forward to intercept the vehicle and ensure the moose were okay.”
That was a mistake.
One of the animals attacked the cruiser, breaking the front grill and bumper before climbing on top of the car. The moose’s hooves broke the windshield and left dents all over the car.
“It was stomping and kicking on the roof and one of the hooves slipped off and broke the driver’s side window, striking the officer,” Douglass said.
“The moose got its footing, or its hoofing I guess, and continued off the trunk of the vehicle.”

[OffsideSpecialist]

I don't know of many people that have a pet moose.

[puffnstuff]

Originally Posted by OffsideSpecialist

I don't know of many people that have a pet moose.

I totally want one though. And from what I read here, they aren't 'bitey', which is what I am looking for in a pet.

[bizaro86]

Originally Posted by puffnstuff

I totally want one though. And from what I read here, they aren't 'bitey', which is what I am looking for in a pet.

You'd need a heck of a pooper scooper

[Skootenbeeten]

Just curious why owners are not held accountable for the dogs behavior? Instead of fines jail time should be added. Dogs are punished and banned because of #### heads who shouldn't get dogs and should get punished when they bite someones throat out.

[Cowperson]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

There seem to be news stories all the time about dogs that attack and the owners are shocked because they were never mistreated.

I have one friend who was attacked by another friend's German Shepherd back when we were 12. The dog practically ripped his ear right off.

This was a dog that we all knew well and played with. It was from a good home, but for whatever reason, that day something was stuck in it's craw.

Dogs are animals of pretty high intelligence and like humans, are complicated. Some humans, no matter how well they are raised, are just complete jerks. I believe the same thing is true with dogs. The question for me is, are there sometimes have genetic links? I believe that sometimes they are and certain breeds are more like to "snap". That's not to say that all pitbulls will eventually snap despite being raised well, but I just don't see why anyone would risk it. The fact that it happens at all and that they are capable of terrible damage, should be enough to not get one.

True story from late August . . . . .

I'm walking my two Golden Retrievers, leashed, near Elbow Lake when a father with a little boy comes from the other direction.

The little boy is jabbering away as little boys do and holding out his hand, wanting to touch the dogs. The father asks for permission to approach and I grant it.

My dogs have met other children earlier in the day as well as after this encounter, all without incident. Both of them, rescues, love humans as far as I've seen.

The little boy starts approaching my dogs, jabbbering in a high pitched voice all the way, but, as always, I'm watching my dogs closely.

My Golden boy Pete starts to wince, leaning away from the boy and then stepping away from the boy . . . then he bumps into his Golden girl sister Ruby and can't retreat any further from the boy.

I'm watching this develop and I'm already on the move to place myself between the little boy and my dog and telling the father to reach for his boy . . . . just as my Golden, still wincing and apparently afraid of the child, turns and starts a low-pitched warning growl at the boy.

By that time I'm in between them, chastising Pete and the boy is being held by his father. Nothing further happened.

We continued our walk and encountered a few other children along the way with nothing similar occurring.

If you're a parent, you should never let your child approach a strange dog alone.

As a dog owner, you should always be ready to step between your dog and a unknown child.

A few years ago, not more than 50 feet from this same obscure spot as the incident above, something similar happened with one of my then 12 year old Golden's. As far as I knew, through more than a decade of experience together, my Golden loved little kids and viewed them as opportunities to steal food. But this little girl leaned over my Golden's shoulders and my dog turned to me with a look that plainly said: "Do something about this or I will . . . ." I moved fast and ended the situation.

A child leaning over the shoulders of a dog could be viewed by the dog as an attempt at dominance, with a instinctive reaction.

Aside from those two situations, I've never had occasion to worry about the four Golden's I've owned biting people.

Yet, two "almosts" has been enough to keep me wary.

My point with the above comments is to illustrate it doesn't take a terrible, abusive owner to create a dog that may bite. It doesn't mean the dog is a "jerk" either. A biting situation with horrible consequences can come out of an everyday, normal circumstance.

Know your dogs. Be aware of their reactions if they're in an unfamilar situation and have their backs if they need you.

Pete, left, at Elbow Lake, just before the incident above . . . .



Cowperson

[Kybosh]

My dog has never shown the slightest hint towards human aggression, but I ALWAYS keep my hand firmly on her collar when strangers want to give her a pet. I find that most little kids I come across are saavy enough to know to ask for permission, which is nice. I also have noticed that at an off leash dog park, parents are usually quite good about showing their kids how to interact safely with dogs.

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by Skootenbeeten

Just curious why owners are not held accountable for the dogs behavior? Instead of fines jail time should be added. Dogs are punished and banned because of #### heads who shouldn't get dogs and should get punished when they bite someones throat out.

[Rerun]

Originally Posted by Kybosh

My dog has never shown the slightest hint towards human aggression, but I ALWAYS keep my hand firmly on her collar when strangers want to give her a pet. I find that most little kids I come across are saavy enough to know to ask for permission, which is nice. I also have noticed that at an off leash dog park, parents are usually quite good about showing their kids how to interact safely with dogs.

I always wonder about parents who take their small children to an off leash park with their dog. From personal experience, my dog has a lot of energy to burn and he loves the off leash park where he can run and play with other dogs. Sure enough there will be some family with a 2 year old that can barely stand and my dog will go running up to them to greet the family and the other dog(s) and the kid will accidentally get knocked to the ground and start balling his head off... and then I'll feel terrible but what could I do? Its an OFF-LEASH park people. Don't bring your small children and expect them not to get knocked down and licked by over enthusiastic strange dogs.

[chemgear]

http://calgary.ctvnews.ca/woman-lose...dogs-1.1022070

A Calgary court has rejected an appeal from the owner of two Pit Bulls to keep the animals from being euthanized after they viciously attacked a woman earlier this year.

Smith lost a portion of her nose in the attack and has undergone extensive reconstructive surgery to fix the damage to her face and leg.

Tran and her brother were fined $3000 for the attack.

Tran is also facing charges in connection to a cocaine bust in the city back in July.


Hmmm I guess she's also the one here:

http://www.globalnews.ca/calgary+pol...009/story.html

Police seized 10.7 kilograms of cocaine with a street value of over $1 million dollars, more than $126-thousand dollars cash, body armour and six vehicles.

[Sliver]

Ugh, I hate having to bump this thread. Another dog attack - this time a seven-year-old girl with lacerations to her face. Fortunately, it sounds like it isn't life threatening. Poor kid.