ECSF: New York Islanders (M2) vs. Carolina Hurricanes (WC1) — CANES WIN SERIES 4-0

[TheScorpion]

Canes win! 2-0 series lead.

[Manhattanboy]

I don’t necessarily disagree re the trade.

Still steamed they are playing, we are not, and annoyed with Lindholm’s disappearing act.

[oldschoolcalgary]

full marks to Carolina... Resilient team.

Islanders should have stayed at Nassau imo... that building was a madhouse...

[btimbit]

It really is too bad they can't stay at Nassau full time until their new arena is completed. Especially after its renovations. But I guess the team and/or league got a taste of the money from playing at Barclays.

[Ped]

I don't think it will make a huge difference in trade assessment, because I think Hanifin has the most potential of all the players, but I can't help but wonder if Lindholm just had his career year, and his late year struggles show he's regressing to more of the guy he was in Carolina.


Next year should be very interesting, especially if he's moved away from Gaudreau.

[activeStick]

Nice to see McToughtoSpell get the big playoff win. How about these Canes eh?

[Buff]

Carolina played great but were lucky the Isles never tied it up. They had some great chances to score and hit the post or just couldn't find the net. It's got to be in the Isles heads now.

[Winsor_Pilates]

18 shots for the win. I didnt watch the game but that's crazy low to win a playoff game.
Good on Carolina, didn't see this series starting this way at all.

[Manhattanboy]

Originally Posted by oldschoolcalgary

full marks to Carolina... Resilient team.

Islanders should have stayed at Nassau imo... that building was a madhouse...

Yup bunch of jerks with Hamilton dispose of the cup champs in seven, and with a backup in net steal the first two games on the road from a red hot NYI team.

Shows how weak the Flames really are.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by timbit

Carolina has outworked and out-battled NYI in the first two games and as a consequence are up 2-0 , going home.

Hard to believe that could happen, with the Canes coming off a grueling 7 game series with the Caps and Isles making short work of the Pens.

Isles also easily could have been up 2-0 in this series without some brutal luck. Hockey's funny that way. Carolina has worked hard no doubt, but the Isles certainly haven't been outplayed or anything, both games have been a tale of the bounces. Carolina's getting them.

[DeluxeMoustache]

That goal called off, in a one goal game, has to sting a little.

Call could have gone either way, but should have been, in my opinion, a goal.

[timbit]

Originally Posted by jayswin

Isles also easily could have been up 2-0 in this series without some brutal luck. Hockey's funny that way. Carolina has worked hard no doubt, but the Isles certainly haven't been outplayed or anything, both games have been a tale of the bounces. Carolina's getting them.

If we are going to talk about luck, the Canes have been dismantled with key players being injured and have found a way to win 2 games on the road.

[timbit]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

That goal called off, in a one goal game, has to sting a little.

Call could have gone either way, but should have been, in my opinion, a goal.

It was a distinct kicking motion that ended up with the puck in the net.

No goal, IMO.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Canes injuries are really mounting.

That’s why Treliving was right in amassing 10 NHL ready D. If the team makes noise in the playoffs, you need them.

The Flames obviously missed the memo. Watching the effort Carolina is putting forth, hopefully the Flames are watching.

I watch Williams being alert, getting the puck out of the crease and blocking the shot, and then think of frickin’ Backlund, and how he was a few steps away from Rantanen on his one timer. Didn’t take the pass, or the man, or block the shot.

I’m enjoying watching playoff hockey again.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by timbit

It was a distinct kicking motion that ended up with the puck in the net.

No goal, IMO.

Technically you could argue that, and there are many converse arguments.

One is the spirit of the rule, that the intent is to stop pucks being intentionally kicked in the net, where the intent here is to put the puck in front of the net. There is no straight line between skate and net.

You could argue that McElhinney directed it in to the net with his right pad. It wasn’t perfectly stationary. His actions resulted in the force and direction.

You also could look at many instances where the puck is obviously intentionally directed by a player who is moving forward, turns his skate and the puck goes straight in, and the goal is allowed.

I agree with the guys on the panel who have played the game and know what they are talking about.

Bad call, IMO.

(Then again, I hate legitimate, barely missed passes being called for icing. The spirit of icing is about penalizing the team who dumps the puck out to relieve pressure. However they have stopped waving those off)

[gamesaver]

Originally Posted by AC

The last laugh during year one of the trade?

We have Lindholm and Hanifin under contract for a combined 12 seasons.
Carolina only has 3 Dougie years under contract, and 1 of Ferland. They're poised to lose Ferland to free agency and have to try and scramble to get something for Fox.

Also, Carolina would have had a good year last season if they got the goaltending they've had this year. That's the biggest difference by far.

Every reasonable argument will be lost the moment when the Canes win that Cup in 2019. Unless the Flames are not going to win it as well in that 12 combined season, Treliving got fleeced.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by Ped

I don't think it will make a huge difference in trade assessment, because I think Hanifin has the most potential of all the players, but I can't help but wonder if Lindholm just had his career year, and his late year struggles show he's regressing to more of the guy he was in Carolina.


Next year should be very interesting, especially if he's moved away from Gaudreau.

We will learn a ton about Lindholm next year, especially if he centers his own line.

I wouldn’t say Carolina won the trade because they are still alive but I’m pretty certain their fans no longer care.

Their big win this year has been goaltending and coaching IMO.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by gamesaver

Every reasonable argument will be lost the moment when the Canes win that Cup in 2019. Unless the Flames are not going to win it as well in that 12 combined season, Treliving got fleeced.

Not at all. Example:

Maybe Brind’amour is a very good coach ... when it matters.

[gamesaver]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

Technically you could argue that, and there are many converse arguments.

One is the spirit of the rule, that the intent is to stop pucks being intentionally kicked in the net, where the intent here is to put the puck in front of the net. There is no straight line between skate and net.

You could argue that McElhinney directed it in to the net with his right pad. It wasn’t perfectly stationary. His actions resulted in the force and direction.

You also could look at many instances where the puck is obviously intentionally directed by a player who is moving forward, turns his skate and the puck goes straight in, and the goal is allowed.

I agree with the guys on the panel who have played the game and know what they are talking about.

Bad call, IMO.

(Then again, I hate legitimate, barely missed passes being called for icing. The spirit of icing is about penalizing the team who dumps the puck out to relieve pressure. However they have stopped waving those off)

It's a good call, maybe not a good rule.

[CaptainYooh]

Man, you can't watch these two games and not feel sorry for the Islanders. What a stunning lack of puck luck! At the same time, Carolina playing with their ever-shrinking playoff roster and getting it done commands admiration for the team and coach. I'd pay good money to hear Trotz's uncensored locker room talk after this game...