ECSF: New York Islanders (M2) vs. Carolina Hurricanes (WC1) — CANES WIN SERIES 4-0

[Itse]

I've been thinking for a good while the Canes look good and could go far, but I have to say this series never looked like a sweep until the last half of the last game. Yes the Hurricanes were gikd enough to win, but they also had all the puckluck.

Can't help rooting for McBackup, always liked that guy.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

If we could stop talking about Hamilton's mediocre contributions and instead focus on how damn good Jaccob Slavin is, that would be great. Poor guy can't get the credit he deserves because we're too focused on an ex who jilted us and wanted out.

[JohnnyB]

Originally Posted by flamingred89

The possibility of a Columbus/Carolina eastern final probably has the NHL salivating over that ratings bonanza...

I am definitely cheering for BJs v Canes and Avs v Stars. Why not have all the bottom teams fight for the cup? It's what my bitter heart wants to see.

[Dr. Doom]

Originally Posted by JohnnyB

I am definitely cheering for BJs v Canes and Avs v Stars. Why not have all the bottom teams fight for the cup? It's what my bitter heart wants to see.

I could be wrong but I think it's terrible for viewership. And what does it mean to regular season hockey that's being questioned now...

[JohnnyB]

The playoffs can't flip the style of play on what the regular season does. There needs to be consistency or it's pointless. In the deadpuck era I enjoyed the gruelling battles, and there was consistency with the style of play from the regular season though less skill shown overall. With the game having moved to speed and finesse in the regular season, the playoffs need to follow suit, or it should all move back to what it was before.

[Monahammer]

Lol revisionist history... the only revisionism going on is all of this post parting hate for Dougie. He would undoubtedly have been a superior partner for gio than brodie, and definitely wouldn't have made as ridiculously boneheaded turnovers in the playoffs as TJ Dumbie.

Cant we just be happy for a guy who played well here and left in a good hockey trade for this club to have success elsewhere? Do we have to hold oiler fan levels of spite towards him now that hes elsewhere?
Imo the people who still have a hate on for Dougie are small people, likely complete with depressing and totally insignificant lives. You should feel shame for continuing to try and tread on a great player and a good guy.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Lol revisionist history... the only revisionism going on is all of this post parting hate for Dougie. He would undoubtedly have been a superior partner for gio than brodie, and definitely wouldn't have made as ridiculously boneheaded turnovers in the playoffs as TJ Dumbie.

Cant we just be happy for a guy who played well here and left in a good hockey trade for this club to have success elsewhere? Do we have to hold oiler fan levels of spite towards him now that hes elsewhere?
Imo the people who still have a hate on for Dougie are small people, likely complete with depressing and totally insignificant lives. You should feel shame for continuing to try and tread on a great player and a good guy.

Lol pot calling kettle black here big time.

Do you remember Dougie making a lazy penalty that cost the Flames a game against the Ducks in 2017? The whole “hot mic” incident after the game where someone was ripping the lazy play Hamilton made and consistently made.

Gio’s numbers and stats go down significantly when he had to cover for Hamilton. He scored 56pts then dipped to low 40’s and high 30’s with Dougie then explodes for 74 when Hamilton is moved away. He we win the Norris playing with Brodie.

You compare our fans to Oiler fans for hating on a guy that didn’t want to be here and then call one of our own players TJ Dumbie? Then you get on a soapbox and start calling people insignificant because they are throwing some internet shade at a former player who was mad his loser brother couldn’t be on our team anymore? Give your head a shake bud and look in the mirror. It is like you are taking these shots at Dougie personally and now are lashing out at our own team and the posters on this board. Seems kind of bizarre unless you have some personal connection with Hamilton?

[Yobbo]

Originally Posted by Scorch

Ffs, it’s posts like these that derail the entire thread



There’s a dozen other Flames criticism type threads out there. Go post your thoughts in one of them

Just posting facts.

[JackIsBack]

Originally Posted by JohnnyB

The playoffs can't flip the style of play on what the regular season does. There needs to be consistency or it's pointless. In the deadpuck era I enjoyed the gruelling battles, and there was consistency with the style of play from the regular season though less skill shown overall. With the game having moved to speed and finesse in the regular season, the playoffs need to follow suit, or it should all move back to what it was before.

I totally agree... if it's a penalty in the first game of the season, it's a penalty in the 82nd game of the season and it's a penalty throughout the playoffs - it's that simple NHL - GET IT RIGHT! Also.... this not calling a penalty against the trailing team in the third period in the playoffs, but calling that same (or lighter) infraction against the team leading is just WRONG. This "put your whistle away" because you don't want to change the outcome of the game is in fact the very opposite of what they claiming they're doing by doing that. If a team breaks a rule and you call it... THAT'S THE GAME... those are the rules of the game, your are not "changing the outcome of the game" by calling it... but if you purposefully don't call it when you normally would in the regular season (or at the beginning of the game)... you ARE affecting the outcome - the very thing you're claiming you don't want to do.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Lol pot calling kettle black here big time.

Do you remember Dougie making a lazy penalty that cost the Flames a game against the Ducks in 2017? The whole “hot mic” incident after the game where someone was ripping the lazy play Hamilton made and consistently made.

Gio’s numbers and stats go down significantly when he had to cover for Hamilton. He scored 56pts then dipped to low 40’s and high 30’s with Dougie then explodes for 74 when Hamilton is moved away. He we win the Norris playing with Brodie.

You compare our fans to Oiler fans for hating on a guy that didn’t want to be here and then call one of our own players TJ Dumbie? Then you get on a soapbox and start calling people insignificant because they are throwing some internet shade at a former player who was mad his loser brother couldn’t be on our team anymore? Give your head a shake bud and look in the mirror. It is like you are taking these shots at Dougie personally and now are lashing out at our own team and the posters on this board. Seems kind of bizarre unless you have some personal connection with Hamilton?

Swing and a miss.

Brodie is a lazy player who is deserving of scorn. He makes terrible decisions with the puck.

Hamilton doesnt like to drink alcohol or party and wasnt as tough as he should have been.

One of these players gets defended to the death on these boards while the other gets tossed under the bus as often as possible. I'm just trying to right the massive wrong.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Swing and a miss.

Brodie is a lazy player who is deserving of scorn. He makes terrible decisions with the puck.

Hamilton doesnt like to drink alcohol or party and wasnt as tough as he should have been.

One of these players gets defended to the death on these boards while the other gets tossed under the bus as often as possible. I'm just trying to right the massive wrong.

In that case, and to use your own words,

Swing and a miss.

[Nelson]

Carolina is an awesome team and they are a possession juggernaut. Watching the games, they seem to have the puck in the offensive zone a lot, and the numbers back that up.

In 11 playoff games, the following Carolina forwards are over 60% in CF% at 5 v 5: Aho, Niederreiter, Staal, Terraveinen. Williams and Svechnikov are just under 60%.

Their top 5 on the blue line is amazing. At 5 v 5:

Slavin: 216:46, 55.44% CF%
Faulk: 211:10, 58.00% CF%
Pesce: 204:28, 51.79% CF%
Hamilton: 189:28, 58.64% CF%
De Haan: 131:10, 60.18% CF%

As a side note, how about that Niederreiter trade. I wanted the Flames to get him for a while. I wonder what the equivalent trade from Calgary's perspective might have been.

I think there is a strong argument to be made for Jankowski being better than Rask. If the Flames had done Jankowski for Niederreiter, the top 9 going into next season could have been:

Gaudreau - Monahan - Lindholm
Tkachuk - Backlund - Niederreiter
Mangiapane - Ryan - Bennett

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Swing and a miss.

Brodie is a lazy player who is deserving of scorn. He makes terrible decisions with the puck.

Hamilton doesnt like to drink alcohol or party and wasnt as tough as he should have been.

One of these players gets defended to the death on these boards while the other gets tossed under the bus as often as possible. I'm just trying to right the massive wrong.

I sometimes wonder if people are reading the same board as me.
Brodie gets regularly criticized by this board. Probably for some valid reason. But do you really think you are some lone voice in the forest criticizing Brodie?

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Swing and a miss.

Brodie is a lazy player who is deserving of scorn. He makes terrible decisions with the puck.

Hamilton doesnt like to drink alcohol or party and wasnt as tough as he should have been.

One of these players gets defended to the death on these boards while the other gets tossed under the bus as often as possible. I'm just trying to right the massive wrong.

I am firmly on the trade Brodie bandwagon. I was also firmly on the trade Hamilton bandwagon last summer. I don’t think either are true top pairing Dmen and both were carried by Gio. I hope Treliving is able to maximize the trade value for Brodie like he did for Hamilton last summer.

Brodie has also been a massive whipping boy and one of the most criticized players on this forum for the past 2 seasons.

[oldschoolcalgary]

Originally Posted by Nelson

Carolina is an awesome team and they are a possession juggernaut. Watching the games, they seem to have the puck in the offensive zone a lot, and the numbers back that up.

In 11 playoff games, the following Carolina forwards are over 60% in CF% at 5 v 5: Aho, Niederreiter, Staal, Terraveinen. Williams and Svechnikov are just under 60%.

Their top 5 on the blue line is amazing. At 5 v 5:

Slavin: 216:46, 55.44% CF%
Faulk: 211:10, 58.00% CF%
Pesce: 204:28, 51.79% CF%
Hamilton: 189:28, 58.64% CF%
De Haan: 131:10, 60.18% CF%

As a side note, how about that Niederreiter trade. I wanted the Flames to get him for a while. I wonder what the equivalent trade from Calgary's perspective might have been.

I think there is a strong argument to be made for Jankowski being better than Rask. If the Flames had done Jankowski for Niederreiter, the top 9 going into next season could have been:

Gaudreau - Monahan - Lindholm
Tkachuk - Backlund - Niederreiter
Mangiapane - Ryan - Bennett

Agree fully on NN... i was hoping calgary could trade for him before carolina pulled the trigger.

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by MBates

Skating. Day to day. Was a possible for return tonight apparently. Brind'Amour was quoted saying that as soon as he says he is ready to go, then he's going.

Good to know. With a week off now he should be in game shape for the eastern final and will be a great addition for that series especially if they go up against Boston.

[Scorch]

Originally Posted by Yobbo

Just posting facts.

What facts? You’re just whining about the Flames based on your perception

Stop derailing the Hurricanes thread!

[woob]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Imo the people who still have a hate on for Dougie are small people, likely complete with depressing and totally insignificant lives. You should feel shame for continuing to try and tread on a great player and a good guy.

Well then. A bit dramatic, don’t ya think?

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by woob

Well then. A bit dramatic, don’t ya think?

Particularly coming from a guy who obsessively and ruthlessly attacked Mike Smith all season long. At times for fair reasons but also for very unfair reasons.
Stones, glasses, pots that are black. The usual cliches apply here.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

If we could stop talking about Hamilton's mediocre contributions and instead focus on how damn good Jaccob Slavin is, that would be great. Poor guy can't get the credit he deserves because we're too focused on an ex who jilted us and wanted out.

It would appear that no, we cannot.