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FBI · 10-13-2021, 12:08 PM

Well I’d rather have Kylington playing as forward than scratched i guess.

Textcritic · 10-13-2021, 12:15 PM

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Well I’d rather have Kylington playing as forward than scratched i guess.

I very much doubt that Kylington would ever play forward in an actual game. I still think he starts on Saturday, but thete is still (annoyingly) lots of time before then.

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FlamesAddiction · 10-13-2021, 12:16 PM

If it was actually game night, I might think about it more, but seeing as how there are still a few days between now and the first game, I wouldn't read too much into it.

FanIn80 · 10-13-2021, 12:26 PM

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I've said it a few times here in the past when we had no RWs and Kylington was sitting in the press box. Like just try him out on the wing. He's got the wheels and offensive instincts for it. If we don't play him on D cause he isn't "perfect" enough to never make a mistake on D, then put him on the wing where he's a massive skill upgrade over some of the bottom 6 (maybe only the bottom 3 in the present day, but bottom 6 in other seasons).

I think I even said the same thing about Brodie too though. I mean, it's not like Fs and Ds can't swap. Burns and Byfuglien come to mind right away. Sutter used to use Yelle on D to cover for injuries etc. I'm sure there are other cases I can't think of right now.

SeanCharles · 10-13-2021, 12:29 PM

I like the look of the top two lines and the top D pairing.

That’s how they should be heading into the season IMO.

Backlund and Coleman can form a high end shutdown 3rd line.

heep223 · 10-13-2021, 12:31 PM

Backlund, hurt before the season starts. I feel like this is often the case fsr and he almost always starts slow. Should switch up the offseason routine

DeluxeMoustache · 10-13-2021, 12:33 PM

I don’t care much for Ritchie, he neutered 13 and 23 when they played together

Lu-Lew-Lemon

Calgary4LIfe · 10-13-2021, 12:51 PM

Who knows where Kylington is in Sutter's mind? Maybe Kylington has earned his spot in the top 6, and Sutter is wanting to see what Valimaki does with Gudbranson? Maybe Sutter hates Kylington, and won't ever like him until the next off-season when Kylington will be forced to train by working on the Sutter farm like in Rocky IV.

I look at this team and see a lot of depth on D, but missing a top-end puckmover/point producer. I think Sutter is simply going to cycle through some D for the first 20 games and wait for players to solidify their positions and hierarchy. That includes Gudbranson and Zadorov - Sutter is NOT shy about sitting bona fide stars when they are playing poorly, and I really doubt that he would continue playing 4th, 5th or 6th D that make it more difficult to win games, or directly cost him games.

I expect the D to be an ongoing evolution for at least the first 20 games, and maybe even all season as players just simply push themselves ahead when given the opportunities. I am not going to waste any time getting upset at which six defencemen he selects to play opening night, as I am betting it will change frequently.

Textcritic · 10-13-2021, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by FanIn80

I've said it a few times here in the past when we had no RWs and Kylington was sitting in the press box. Like just try him out on the wing. He's got the wheels and offensive instincts for it. If we don't play him on D cause he isn't "perfect" enough to never make a mistake on D, then put him on the wing where he's a massive skill upgrade over some of the bottom 6 (maybe only the bottom 3 in the present day, but bottom 6 in other seasons).

I don't think this is what is happening here. Kylington's placement on the wing is for no other purpose than to keep him skating.

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I think I even said the same thing about Brodie too though. I mean, it's not like Fs and Ds can't swap. Burns and Byfuglien come to mind right away. Sutter used to use Yelle on D to cover for injuries etc. I'm sure there are other cases I can't think of right now.

But you can count the number of times players at the NHL level have made the switch from defence to forward and back over the last few decades on one hand. There is no good reason to think that this is even a viable option for Kylington.

Enoch Root · 10-13-2021, 01:12 PM

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Who knows where Kylington is in Sutter's mind? Maybe Kylington has earned his spot in the top 6, and Sutter is wanting to see what Valimaki does with Gudbranson? Maybe Sutter hates Kylington, and won't ever like him until the next off-season when Kylington will be forced to train by working on the Sutter farm like in Rocky IV.

I look at this team and see a lot of depth on D, but missing a top-end puckmover/point producer. I think Sutter is simply going to cycle through some D for the first 20 games and wait for players to solidify their positions and hierarchy. That includes Gudbranson and Zadorov - Sutter is NOT shy about sitting bona fide stars when they are playing poorly, and I really doubt that he would continue playing 4th, 5th or 6th D that make it more difficult to win games, or directly cost him games.

I expect the D to be an ongoing evolution for at least the first 20 games, and maybe even all season as players just simply push themselves ahead when given the opportunities. I am not going to waste any time getting upset at which six defencemen he selects to play opening night, as I am betting it will change frequently.

Exactly this. The D is going to be a carousel for at least 20 games, if not all season.

None the less, we should all freak out about Kylington's status for game #1.

Buff · 10-13-2021, 01:14 PM

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Backlund, hurt before the season starts. I feel like this is often the case fsr and he almost always starts slow. Should switch up the offseason routine

How do you know he wasn't taking some online Captaincy lessons?

dissentowner · 10-13-2021, 01:25 PM

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I don't think the choice is being made between Gudbranson and Kylington right now. It is between Kylington and Valimaki.

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But it shouldn't be. Both are better than Gudbranson and both can play RD.

FanIn80 · 10-13-2021, 01:28 PM

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How do you know he wasn't taking some online Captaincy lessons?

Cause if you need lessons on how to be a Captain, you're not ready to be a Captain.

DoubleK · 10-13-2021, 01:44 PM

I'd rather see Stone in the lineup over Gubrandson.

jaydub74 · 10-13-2021, 03:24 PM

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How do you know he wasn't taking some online Captaincy lessons?

Was out for a walk this morning enjoying the cool weather. No visible sign of injury.

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flambers · 10-13-2021, 03:28 PM

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Kylington is a forward now? and why is coleman playing on the 4th line? because he is going to be out for Saturday?

Kylington is not a forward, they spoke about this on Fan960

During practice they only had 11 forwards (i.e. Backlund had a maintenance day etc)

Coleman is on the 4th line as he is suspended, they are working other forwards

My guess Kylington for game #1 is the 7th dman and won't dress

dissentowner · 10-13-2021, 03:31 PM

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Kylington is not a forward, they spoke about this on Fan960

During practice they only had 11 forwards (i.e. Backlund had a maintenance day etc)

Coleman is on the 4th line as he is suspended, they are working other forwards

My guess Kylington for game #1 is the 7th dman and won't dress

So much for "Always earned, never given"

Textcritic · 10-13-2021, 03:47 PM

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So much for "Always earned, never given"

Why do people keep trotting this out like it is an organisational mandate? The "always earned, never given" catch-phrase was a product of Hartley's rebuilding Flames, and was only clearly enforced for all of one or two seasons in 2014–16. It hasn't been a thing for half a decade, and through four subsequent coaching regimes.

Now, as for Kylington we have no idea whether or not he will be in the lineup on opening night, but that is not all that important, since we do know that he made the opening day roster out of camp. That is already a big step forward for him, and we are also assured by the coaches that he is going to play this season. In the end, who cares whether or not he plays opening night if he has solidified a spot for himself in the lineup by Christmas?

It is whining about nothing at this point—and even worse—is a whine constructed upon a false premise concocted from years ago.

CF84 · 10-13-2021, 03:51 PM

Kylington is not a forward, but he is the closest defenseman to becoming a forward. If Sutter likes what he sees at practice today, it just gives him an option if the Flames ever need one.

Also, I would never expect Sutter to actually admit that he likes having an option like Kylington on forward.

Textcritic · 10-13-2021, 03:56 PM

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Kylington is not a forward, but he is the closest defenseman to becoming a forward. If Sutter likes what he sees at practice today, it just gives him an option if the Flames ever need one.

I seriously doubt it. Kylington is not in any sense being considered as an option at forward. There are whole bunch of actual forwards that the Flames would deploy ahead of shifting him off of the blueline.