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Old 08-28-2021, 04:11 PM   #41
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The issue I can see is that Kotkanunspellable was a high draft pick and its likely that Carolina's 1st is likely going to be mid-range at best next season, but it would be advantageous to the Habs to not be saddled with that contract.
I guess do you still value him as a top 4 pick

It’s not this year, he is going to be overpaid for a few yrs unless he makes the giant leap now
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Old 08-28-2021, 04:14 PM   #42
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Mmm. Yes. This is the kind of thing I want more of. Pettiness. But not just pettiness. Shrewd, measured pettiness.


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Old 08-28-2021, 04:15 PM   #43
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This is funny but it’s a lose / lose situation for both teams. Why would Carolina want this kid at that price? Montreal either gets a late first or a crap contract.
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I get that the canes pick won’t be great but there is a lottery and they did lose Hamilton. East is tough and if they miss the playoffs you never know. Kotkaniemi is worth a late first but a grossly overpaid kotkaniemi isn’t worth a first IMO let alone first and a 3rd

Habs need to send that eff u back by letting them have him
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Old 08-28-2021, 04:16 PM   #45
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So much preparation and planning around this lol. Amazing.
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Old 08-28-2021, 04:18 PM   #46
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No clue what the player is thinking, if the Habs match the offer...

Could be some hard feelings, he is not the same type of player as Aho.

With a $6m price tag, crap load of pressure in Montreal
It’s a business. He likely doesn’t (and shouldn’t) give a #### about feelings.
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Habs need to send that eff u back by letting them have him

Which seems logical, but letting players go in this fashion could chum the water for more.


It's a bit part of why teams will announce their plan to match no matter what ahead of time.
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Is there anyone on the Canes that’s offer sheet eligible?
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It’s a business. He likely doesn’t (and shouldn’t) give a #### about feelings.
I guess, however when the media is all over him, that could be interesting

Montreal is a different place than Carolina.
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Montreal can't afford to keep him (over cap) and can't afford to let him go (lack of depth at center).

If Montreal matches they eat up 1/2 of their 12+ million cap space next off-season with only 13 players signed. Yikes!

If you're speaking revenge factor...well played Carolina!
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Montreal are already over the cap without matching this deal.

I think we've learned that teams would rather trade for more LTIR cap hits than trade away pieces, but I wonder if there's any players worth vulturing off the Habs

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Old 08-28-2021, 04:21 PM   #52
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Let the cycle of Pettiness continue!

Next year Habs offer sheet Necas.

Canes retaliate and offer sheet Suzuki.

Then Canes offer sheet Caulfield

Habs kidnap Seth Jarvis and brainwash him to believe his new identity is Alexandre Chapdelaine from Trois-Rivieres and sign a deal with the Habs.

Canes petition re-elected President Trump to nuke Montreal.

and so on
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Anyone that faults the kid and tries to spout loyalty is a putz. Teams chew players up and spit them out all the time. He just got a big pay day, way ahead of schedule in a system that keeps him at or above that pay level for at least 4 more years unless the team walks away. And if they do walk away, he gets to pick where he plays, even if it is for less.
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Montreal can't afford to keep him (over cap) and can't afford to let him go (lack of depth at center).

If Montreal matches they eat up 1/2 of their 12+ million cap space next off-season with only 13 players signed. Yikes!

If you're speaking revenge factor...well played Carolina!
Exactly this.

Carolina knew they were going to be lighting the Habs Cap Structure on fire and then decided to add a little more gas.

The $20 signing bonus....I'm still chuckling.
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Is there anyone on the Canes that’s offer sheet eligible?
Not this year. Necas will be next year.
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I love it! I wish there were more offer sheets league wide. The chaos would be awesome. And that’s just the right amount to make MTL pause.

I don’t see him as a $6M player yet. I believe the new CBA would require a QO of $7.32M(120%) next season, which is a lot of dough, and probably why he signed it.
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Anyone that faults the kid and tries to spout loyalty is a putz. Teams chew players up and spit them out all the time. He just got a big pay day, way ahead of schedule in a system that keeps him at or above that pay level for at least 4 more years unless the team walks away. And if they do walk away, he gets to pick where he plays, even if it is for less.
why sign a 1 year deal like that?

Its clearly done as a counter to the Aho offer sheet.

Yikes, that's like throwing egg on the face of his current team.
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why sign a 1 year deal like that?

Its clearly done as a counter to the Aho offer sheet.

Yikes, that's like throwing egg on the face of his current team.
I’d do that for an extra 3M/yr for several years
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why sign a 1 year deal like that?

Its clearly done as a counter to the Aho offer sheet.

Yikes, that's like throwing egg on the face of his current team.
Could be that he doesn’t want to stay in Montreal? The dude signed a contract that had a $20 signing bonus to be part of a publicity stunt. I’d say it’s not crazy to speculate that perhaps he isn’t wild about being a Hab.

The Habs suck. No Weber, and there will be no Cinderella run this year. They should probably just let him go and take the first in a very strong draft. Carolina also isn’t that strong of a team.

…of course they’ll probably match, and the media/fans will turn on the player and they’ll eventually trade him anyways.

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Habs are not going to match, esp with the 20 mil signing bonus
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