[GT] June 22-23: The 2012 NHL Entry Draft!

[Canada 02]

Weisbrod said there were two players they really wanted in the 2nd round; Button suggests possibly "a few", including Matt Finn and Sieloff.

Doesn't mean much, except for fans to follow these guys to see who turns out better in the long run.

Kinda like Backlund/Lars Eller, Nemisz/Josh Bailey, Irving/Bernier/Helenius/Varlymov - the former obviously being the guy the Flames took, and the latter being guys Darryl targeted, in addition to the player they chose

[PeteLFan]

Originally Posted by Canada 02

Weisbrod said there were two players thaeyreally wanted in the 2nd round; Button suggests possibly "a few", including Matt Finn and Sieloff.

Doesn't mean much, except for fans to follow these guys to see who turns out better in the long run.

Kinda like Backlund/Lars Eller, Nemisz/Josh Bailey, Irving/Bernier/Helenius/Varlymov - the former obviously being the guy the Flames took, and the latter being guys Darryl targeted, in addition to the player they chose

I don't think we passed over Joshua bailey he was a top 10 pick bfrom what I recall sutter said he was the guy they wanted.

[Canada 02]

Originally Posted by PeteLFan

I don't think we passed over Joshua bailey he was a top 10 pick bfrom what I recall sutter said he was the guy they wanted.

that's what I said, or what I meant. During post draft interviews with Sutter, he usually mentioned the player or players they wanted, and all those names were on their list

[MrMastodonFarm]

[Mitch]

Some high praise from Jim Cummins on Jon Gillies "I think he's the top prospect of all the goalies in the draft"

[browna]

Originally Posted by joe_mullen

My big take from the draft: is there a worse dressed group of executives in the world than NHL management/scouting types? I say no. Just a debacle when it comes to suit choices, fitting, etc.

Well, GM's and those like the Conroy's and Wisebrod's who are in the main office and out in the public occasionally look fine, but yeah, you can tell on TV who the scouts are that usually wear golf shirts and khakis as they drive from town to town, and then have to scramble to put an off the rack suit they bought 3 years ago when they weighed 20 or 30 lbs less or more.

[Phanuthier]

Didn't know where to put this, some other "could be the best player in the NHL draft"

The Anti-Janowski: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...-biggest-steal

An East Indian? http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-pu...9055--nhl.html

[flames_1987]

Among players drafted 2005-08, only 30 players -- 6% -- taken outside the top 100 have played 100 NHL games.

[The Fonz]

Comparing the first 236GP (Yakupov's career TD) of the highest drafted forwards dating back to Daigle:

Crosby - 1.39
Ovechkin - .1.26
Heatley - 1.04
Stamkos - .96
Kane - .95
Kovalchuk - .92
Hall - .89
Tavares - .83
E. Staal - .82
Nash - .73
Nugent-Hopkins - .70
Lecavalier - .63
Daigle - .61
J.P. Dumont - .56
Thornton - .53
J. Staal - .47
Yakupov - .44
Stefan - .43
Bonk - .34
Kilger - .28

Just for the sake of interest.

[Caged Great]

Originally Posted by flames_1987

Among players drafted 2005-08, only 30 players -- 6% -- taken outside the top 100 have played 100 NHL games.

Now that is up to 68 total, which is 14.6% now.

[The Fonz]

Bump

This is without a doubt, the worst top 4 of any NHL draft in modern history. We've had 9 seasons since this day, and while these players should be in the prime of their NHL careers today, here is where they stand:

Nail Yakupov - inactive
Ryan Murray - middle of the road, 2nd pairing dman
Alex Galchenyuk - $750k bubble fwd
Griffin Reinhart - inactive

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by The Fonz

Bump

This is without a doubt, the worst top 4 of any NHL draft in modern history. We've had 9 seasons since this day, and while these players should be in the prime of their NHL careers today, here is where they stand:

Nail Yakupov - inactive
Ryan Murray - middle of the road, 2nd pairing dman
Alex Galchenyuk - $750k bubble fwd
Griffin Reinhart - inactive

The whole thing was bad. I mean, the 2nd highest point scorer from the draft is Galchenuyk, who was PTOed this year. And in a sea of mediocre players, Calgary picked a first rounder that was less than that.

[bzoo02]

Great draft for goalies though:
Andrei Vasilevskiy
Frederik Andersen
Connor Hellebuyck
Matt Murray
Chris Driedger
Joonas Korpisalo
Linus Ullmark
Malcolm Subban

[Jiri Hrdina]

Here's another way you know the draft is just awful.

Alex Galchenyuk is widely considered to be not a great pick.
He's also #2 from the entire draft in points.

[dissentowner]

Funny seeing how many posters were glad the Caps took Tom Wilson before we picked Janko.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by bzoo02

Great draft for goalies though:
Andrei Vasilevskiy
Frederik Andersen
Connor Hellebuyck
Matt Murray
Chris Driedger
Joonas Korpisalo
Linus Ullmark
Malcolm Subban

Had lots of room to develop confidence with strong play in their youth because their peers were ####.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

The whole thing was bad. I mean, the 2nd highest point scorer from the draft is Galchenuyk, who was PTOed this year. And in a sea of mediocre players, Calgary picked a first rounder that was less than that.

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Here's another way you know the draft is just awful.

Alex Galchenyuk is widely considered to be not a great pick.
He's also #2 from the entire draft in points.

Does JH have me blocked?

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Does JH have me blocked?

not only that but my post got more thanks even though it was 100% redundant.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

not only that but my post got more thanks even though it was 100% redundant.

Well, like suspensions, prior conduct comes into play.