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Old 12-10-2024, 11:29 PM   #3881
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Big, good skater, skilled and a strong worth ethic
Sounds like good attributes for a second line centre to me
Probably wouldn’t be on the market if he had a good worth ethic. Big good skating right shot players aren’t traded unless they have serious warts. His underlying numbers seem to confirm that.
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Old 12-10-2024, 11:54 PM   #3882
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Eichel is a far better player now than he ever was in Buffalo

If you can get Cozens you do it
If it costs you a first? Why not just be patient and ya know, draft your own? Get a player 5 years younger, who you can develop yourself.

Impatience in building a new core will undo this team. Just be patient, draft and develop our own.
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Old 12-11-2024, 12:00 AM   #3883
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If it costs you a first? Why not just be patient and ya know, draft your own? Get a player 5 years younger, who you can develop yourself.

Impatience in building a new core will undo this team. Just be patient, draft and develop our own.
Depends on the pick
What are the chances you get a player of that quality in the late 20s?
All avenues to acquire young core players should be on the table
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Old 12-11-2024, 12:02 AM   #3884
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If it costs you a first? Why not just be patient and ya know, draft your own? Get a player 5 years younger, who you can develop yourself.

Impatience in building a new core will undo this team. Just be patient, draft and develop our own.
Maybe they think Cozens is greater than what they think a late first might get them?
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Old 12-11-2024, 12:06 AM   #3885
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No disrespect to you Paulie (I think we agree on most things), but I'm with Jiri and others in the Cozens crowd- I think he just needs to get the hell out of there, and he will find his game, even if it's not with us.
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Depends on the pick
What are the chances you get a player of that quality in the late 20s?
I think part of being patient is also the maximizing of the Flames own 1st round pick. I believe sequencing is an important part of team building. Adding Dylan Cozens now won’t turn this team into a contender, but it very likely contributes to a better overall position in the standings (or at least that’s part of the reasoning in why you’d do that sort of trade), and that could easily be the difference between drafting 8th rather than 4th, or 12th rather than 9th etc.

I think that matters. It decreases the odds of drafting the type of impact players I think we so desperately need.
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Old 12-11-2024, 12:07 AM   #3887
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I am gonna put a prediction in here: Walker Duehr returns more than Andrei Kuzmenko at the TDL.
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Old 12-11-2024, 12:19 AM   #3888
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I am gonna put a prediction in here: Walker Duehr returns more than Andrei Kuzmenko at the TDL.
You think they'll trade Duehr?
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Old 12-11-2024, 12:25 AM   #3889
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You think they'll trade Duehr?
I do. He's a pending UFA who, despite his positive attributes, is easily replaceable. Already 27. I think he fits into the same category as guys like Sam Lafferty and Sam Carrick. Could see plenty of teams having interest.
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Duer keeps up his hustle, I could see him.fetching a 3rd.
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Old 12-11-2024, 12:37 AM   #3891
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I'm still reeling at the fact that Andersson has only 4 points in the last 18 games.....
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Old 12-11-2024, 01:50 AM   #3892
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I'm still reeling at the fact that Andersson has only 4 points in the last 18 games.....
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Montour took a significant step when he left Buffalo.
Anahiem ####ed up HUGE and that was their misstep to their basement.

2017

They had on defence all at one and pissed em all away.

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Old 12-11-2024, 02:16 AM   #3894
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I do. He's a pending UFA who, despite his positive attributes, is easily replaceable. Already 27. I think he fits into the same category as guys like Sam Lafferty and Sam Carrick. Could see plenty of teams having interest.
Reminds me of Hathaway.

I hear if we let him fight Cozens we might get him for a second rounder.
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I am gonna put a prediction in here: Walker Duehr returns more than Andrei Kuzmenko at the TDL.
Kuzmenko has zero value currently. Although a hot streak could change that.

Duehr has a some value.
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I am gonna put a prediction in here: Walker Duehr returns more than Andrei Kuzmenko at the TDL.
Yeah, it sounds shocking and bold but Kuzmenko has..no value? What playoff team would be interested in a one note player who can't hit that note
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