06-27-2018, 01:27 PM
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#1301
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Originally Posted by Geeoff
Pens just cleared cap space. I think they will keep Phil.
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Rumor they have signed Jack Johnson to a 5 year deal.
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06-27-2018, 01:31 PM
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#1302
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinny01
Rumor they have signed Jack Johnson to a 5 year deal.
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There's no way Johnson gets a 5 year contract.
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06-27-2018, 01:33 PM
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#1303
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Ashasx
There's no way Johnson gets a 5 year contract.
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If he does, he can thank two people for that:
David Savard
Sergei Bobrovsky
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06-27-2018, 01:33 PM
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#1304
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Yeah - there is no way that contract ends up looking good but that is what a local Pittsburgh media person is reporting.
Unless it's some low $$$ ($2.5M per season) long term play that is a bad contract, and even then it's likely a bad contract.
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06-27-2018, 01:35 PM
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#1306
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Franchise Player
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That would be absolutely insane. Johnson has been a possession black hole for his entire career, but at least he put up points. Now he doesn't even do that. He is one of the worst defenders in the game.
If he gets a 5 year contract, it doesn't even matter how much the AAV, it will be one of the worst contracts in the league.
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06-27-2018, 01:35 PM
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#1307
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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06-27-2018, 01:35 PM
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#1308
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
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How could an NHL GM do this? This is worse than Kris Russell bad.
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06-27-2018, 01:36 PM
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#1309
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Yikes. 5 years at $3-3.5M for a guy who is a replacement level d-man at best right now.
Why give up so much term when Johnson and his BFF Crosby just want to play together.
Supposedly he was also offered a 7 year, $22M contract extension by Columbus last year...so two GMs were crazy enough to do it.
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06-27-2018, 01:38 PM
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#1310
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
Yikes. 5 years at $3-3.5M for a guy who is a replacement level d-man at best right now.
Why give up so much term when Johnson and his BFF Crosby just want to play together.
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I think you answered your own question. Crosby is going to bat for Johnson and has considerable sway.
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06-27-2018, 01:38 PM
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#1311
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Franchise Player
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Meh, I'm happy for Jack Johnson. Hopefully he's free and clear of the debt brought on by his dirt bag parents and can actually bank some of this money for his future.
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06-27-2018, 01:39 PM
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#1312
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Franchise Player
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With the cap going up it really isn't that bad of the contract. Around 4 % of cap. I think that isn't bad at all.
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06-27-2018, 01:41 PM
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#1313
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Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Calgary
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All of a sudden, Jack Johnson sucks?? He doesn't, he's not the same he used to be, but he's still solid. I will agree that the term sucks, but the money is right. He's pretty much Michael Stone calibre, aka a number 4 guy.
I do agree that the contract isn't great because of term but the money isn't bad at all, especially if he can not decline at the end of the contract.
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06-27-2018, 01:41 PM
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#1314
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ComixZone
Meh, I'm happy for Jack Johnson. Hopefully he's free and clear of the debt brought on by his dirt bag parents and can actually bank some of this money for his future.
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IIRC creditors were only going to get 10% of his next contract if it was over $4.5 mil / year. This is below that so it should all be his.
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06-27-2018, 01:43 PM
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#1315
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robbob
With the cap going up it really isn't that bad of the contract. Around 4 % of cap. I think that isn't bad at all.
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It's just a lot of term for a guy who was healthy scratched all 6 playoff games by Columbus and is at best an average d-man now.
Although Pittsburgh has seemed to have turned around other d-men in the past so maybe they can use some of their secrets again here.
The good news is if teams are offering 5 years and $3+ million to 31 year old Jack Johnson, then it shouldn't be that hard to trade 28 year old Michael Stone with 2 years and $3.5M left on his contract if the Flames decide that's the right move.
Last edited by SuperMatt18; 06-27-2018 at 01:47 PM.
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06-27-2018, 02:49 PM
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#1316
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by savardandjokinen
All of a sudden, Jack Johnson sucks?? He doesn't, he's not the same he used to be, but he's still solid. I will agree that the term sucks, but the money is right. He's pretty much Michael Stone calibre, aka a number 4 guy.
I do agree that the contract isn't great because of term but the money isn't bad at all, especially if he can not decline at the end of the contract.
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Neither Stone or Johnson are close to number 4 caliber players.
That is going to be a horrible contract in 2-3 years. Even next season. Johnson is just not a good D-man.
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06-27-2018, 03:22 PM
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#1317
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary
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06-27-2018, 03:29 PM
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#1318
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Sec206/208
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
It's just a lot of term for a guy who was healthy scratched all 6 playoff games by Columbus and is at best an average d-man now.
Although Pittsburgh has seemed to have turned around other d-men in the past so maybe they can use some of their secrets again here.
The good news is if teams are offering 5 years and $3+ million to 31 year old Jack Johnson, then it shouldn't be that hard to trade 28 year old Michael Stone with 2 years and $3.5M left on his contract if the Flames decide that's the right move.
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Or just keep Stone because he's a on a sweet deal and provides good defensive depth....
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06-27-2018, 03:43 PM
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#1319
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Austria, NOT Australia
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Terms for Smith-Pelley in Washington are 1 year and 1 million. Cheap.
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06-27-2018, 03:46 PM
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#1320
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
It's just a lot of term for a guy who was healthy scratched all 6 playoff games by Columbus and is at best an average d-man now.
Although Pittsburgh has seemed to have turned around other d-men in the past so maybe they can use some of their secrets again here.
The good news is if teams are offering 5 years and $3+ million to 31 year old Jack Johnson, then it shouldn't be that hard to trade 28 year old Michael Stone with 2 years and $3.5M left on his contract if the Flames decide that's the right move.
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Just to be clear, he has two years at $3.5 per year, not total. With a modified NTC.
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