Ongoing Sci-Fi, Comic Book Movie Thread v2

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Nadal Fan

Darkseid is......

Baron Underbeit?

[SportsJunky]

Just listening to Eisenberg's Lex Luthor wrecks that whole scene.

[Harry Lime]

Originally Posted by SportsJunky

Just listening to Eisenberg's Lex Luthor wrecks that whole scene.

The whole point of Luthor is that he represents the worst parts of hereditary wealth and aristocratic power. It's not Luthor who is threatening, it's what he represents. The fact that he is an evil-genius level villain is just a bonus.

Kingpin on the Marvel side is a play off of the same theme, although with more of a mafioso bent.

Making Lex a sniveling idiot, I guess is a representation of what hereditary wealth has become in the 21st century, but it's threatening for entirely different reasons.

I'm still holding out hope that this is Lex Jr. and the Big Bad has yet to be revealed.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

The whole point of Luthor is that he represents the worst parts of hereditary wealth and aristocratic power. It's not Luthor who is threatening, it's what he represents. The fact that he is an evil-genius level villain is just a bonus.

Kingpin on the Marvel side is a play off of the same theme, although with more of a mafioso bent.

Making Lex a sniveling idiot, I guess is a representation of what hereditary wealth has become in the 21st century, but it's threatening for entirely different reasons.

I'm still holding out hope that this is Lex Jr. and the Big Bad has yet to be revealed.

Except that Lex Luthor was supposed to be an almost unrivaled genius. A normal man of extraordinary means who could pose problems to a being of unlimited physical power.

[blankall]

One thing I will say about the Darkseid design is that they managed to make it substantially different from Thanos, that it doesn't feel like a MCU Thanos ripoff. Pretty difficult to pull off, as Thanos was created as a Darkseid ripoff, and the MCU even made Thanos less maniac and more brooding Darkseid-like.

I'm actually starting to get excited for this. The Snyder-cut is the perfect Covid lock down film to enjoy. Not something I'd necessarily want to see in the theatre, but something that is perfect to satisfy my ongoing need for new cinema.

[getbak]

Originally Posted by blankall

The Snyder-cut is the perfect Covid lock down film to enjoy. Not something I'd necessarily want to see in the theatre, but something that is perfect to satisfy my ongoing need for new cinema.

I hope the lockdown is over long before it gets released.

[Johnny Makarov]

that 30 second trailer for Darkseid was better than the entire Mr. Overrated Josh Whedon directed film.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

that 30 second trailer for Darkseid was better than the entire Mr. Overrated Josh Whedon directed film.

The one thing Snyder excels at is making moments. His ability to put together a comprehensive narrative....

[Hemi-Cuda]

One thing that sticks out to me with DC, especially after playing the Injustice games, is how bad they are at making superhero names. I mean the big bad in Injustice 2 is Brainiac, they keep making a point of how powerful and sinister this guy is but all that stuck with me is how stupid his name is. Superman, Batman, Aquaman, Wonder Woman, Green Arrow, Cyborg, all their core justice league characters are as basic as it gets with names. And then you have Darkseid from the planet Apokolips, which sounds like an edgy teenager was tasked with naming rights. Marvel, while having their own share of -man/-woman names, at least puts a little more originality in the rest and less cringe

[blankall]

Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda

One thing that sticks out to me with DC, especially after playing the Injustice games, is how bad they are at making superhero names. I mean the big bad in Injustice 2 is Brainiac, they keep making a point of how powerful and sinister this guy is but all that stuck with me is how stupid his name is. Superman, Batman, Aquaman, Wonder Woman, Green Arrow, Cyborg, all their core justice league characters are as basic as it gets with names. And then you have Darkseid from the planet Apokolips, which sounds like an edgy teenager was tasked with naming rights. Marvel, while having their own share of -man/-woman names, at least puts a little more originality in the rest and less cringe

You're really looking at names that were created in the 60s or earlier. Marvel was just as bad back then. That's kind of just the way comics were in the golden era and early silver area. Most characters had names that were very descriptive of their powers.

Look at Spiderman's roster of villains, which includes: the green goblin, the vulture, electro, the rhino, etc...Or the x-men of Fantastic Four's first villains. You have Magneto, master of magnetism (very similar to Braniac). The Mole Man...master of mole like men. Dr. Doom.

I actually find the late 90s/early 2000 names far cringier. Then the trope was to give everyone these hip and edgy generation X type names. The names would basically be things like Spike, Statix, Darkhawk, x-treme, Adrenalynn, Bloodstrike, etc...Much worse IMO.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda

One thing that sticks out to me with DC, especially after playing the Injustice games, is how bad they are at making superhero names. I mean the big bad in Injustice 2 is Brainiac, they keep making a point of how powerful and sinister this guy is but all that stuck with me is how stupid his name is. Superman, Batman, Aquaman, Wonder Woman, Green Arrow, Cyborg, all their core justice league characters are as basic as it gets with names. And then you have Darkseid from the planet Apokolips, which sounds like an edgy teenager was tasked with naming rights. Marvel, while having their own share of -man/-woman names, at least puts a little more originality in the rest and less cringe

You mean the company who has characters named Iron Fist, Power Man, Peter Porker, Captain America, Captain Marvel, Ant Man, Ms Marvel, Mr. Fantastic, the Thing, Dr. Strange, New Mutants, Deadpool is way edgier?

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

You mean the company who has characters named Iron Fist, Power Man, Peter Porker, Captain America, Captain Marvel, Ant Man, Ms Marvel, Mr. Fantastic, the Thing, Dr. Strange, New Mutants, Deadpool is way edgier?

Oh....I cant wait for that movie. Directed by Sam Raimi I presume?

[WhiteTiger]

Originally Posted by Locke

Oh....I cant wait for that movie. Directed by Sam Raimi I presume?

Into bestiality, are you? ;P

[Nadal Fan]

Originally Posted by Locke

Oh....I cant wait for that movie. Directed by Sam Raimi I presume?

Actually it will be directed by Ham Raimi....

[blankall]

Originally Posted by Locke

Oh....I cant wait for that movie. Directed by Sam Raimi I presume?

It's already out....Peter Porker is the alter-ego of Spider-Ham, who was featured in Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse.

....I think you were hoping for something more exciting.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

The whole point of Luthor is that he represents the worst parts of hereditary wealth and aristocratic power. It's not Luthor who is threatening, it's what he represents. The fact that he is an evil-genius level villain is just a bonus.

Kingpin on the Marvel side is a play off of the same theme, although with more of a mafioso bent.

Making Lex a sniveling idiot, I guess is a representation of what hereditary wealth has become in the 21st century, but it's threatening for entirely different reasons.

I'm still holding out hope that this is Lex Jr. and the Big Bad has yet to be revealed.

What? Is there some revisionist story that has created Luthor as an entitled rich kid from money to be in line with modern day sensibilities? Luthor as imagined by Bernie Sanders or something?

Because the Luthor I remember was intelligent, deceptive and scheming and because of that, able to accumulate wealth and power. Not an aristocrat who inherited everything.

[Cliche]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

What? Is there some revisionist story that has created Luthor as an entitled rich kid from money to be in line with modern day sensibilities? Luthor as imagined by Bernie Sanders or something?

Because the Luthor I remember was intelligent, deceptive and scheming and because of that, able to accumulate wealth and power. Not an aristocrat who inherited everything.

Smallville's Luthor was very much Daddy's little scion
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lex_Luthor_(Smallville)

[blankall]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

The whole point of Luthor is that he represents the worst parts of hereditary wealth and aristocratic power. It's not Luthor who is threatening, it's what he represents. The fact that he is an evil-genius level villain is just a bonus.

Kingpin on the Marvel side is a play off of the same theme, although with more of a mafioso bent.

Making Lex a sniveling idiot, I guess is a representation of what hereditary wealth has become in the 21st century, but it's threatening for entirely different reasons.

I'm still holding out hope that this is Lex Jr. and the Big Bad has yet to be revealed.

The character is actually Lex Jr. His father supposedly died 15 years before BvS.

I agree though it'd be a lot better if they brought Lex Sr. back.

[Nadal Fan]

My complaint about BvS Luther was he was too evil. He blew up a building killing hundreds of people. I prefer a Lex who is an anti hero and who can join the JL to take on huge world ending threats.

[Nadal Fan]

This is pretty cool!

https://twitter.com/user/status/1275129609399353344