[News] Calgary, Alberta, & CSEC agree in principle to $1.223bn Event Centre + infrastructure

[getbak]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

I’m not saying it is or isn’t going to be the same, but with a change to the layout to account for a larger lot and the benefit of feedback of the original design, “similar” definitely does not mean the same.

Yeah, I think the seating bowl will be virtually identical to the 2021 design, but the concourses will be configured differently with the extra room available.

[FlamesAddiction]

I just hope they don't do that thing where they make the home team walk past a lounge or public area on their way to the ice, like they do in Edmonton. I have seen other arenas do the same thing. It just seems awkward and weird to me, especially after a bad game.

[GFG#1]

Originally Posted by dustygoon

Those are a series of hyperboloid structures. So there is that. And...that's the first time I've ever used the word hyperboloid and saying it still doesn't help me understand what i'm looking at. Are those saddledomes on their sides?

The Saddledome has a hyperboloid roof structure. Not all the buildings on that list look like the dome, but it was the first list I could find that had multiple buildings like it. you have to scan through to see the ones like the dome.
1952
1954
1962
1971
1983(Saddledome)
2011

there might be others on the list that was just a quick scan, there is for sure other buildings in the world like it. I believe at one time I heard around 20. SOme others have already been listed.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by kukkudo

Rogers Place is a very poorly designed arena after being too many Oilers games. The washroom lines are brutal, and getting in and out of the arena is congested. There are lots of bottlenecks that I hope are corrected in the new Flames arena.

Isn't that one of the big reasons for the new arena. To reduce the lineups and congestion.

They should also put in a few more toilets.

[kukkudo]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Isn't that one of the big reasons for the new arena. To reduce the lineups and congestion.

They should also put in a few more toilets.

Hopefully, the company learned from their Edmonton mistakes.

[shutout]

https://variety.com/2024/biz/news/st...ng-1235899179/

Like everything that I read and hear about the Intuit arena for the Clippers.
Designed around expanding and maximizing the fan and in game experience.

[Yeah_Baby]

Originally Posted by kukkudo

Rogers Place is a very poorly designed arena after being too many Oilers games. The washroom lines are brutal, and getting in and out of the arena is congested. There are lots of bottlenecks that I hope are corrected in the new Flames arena.

I like Ford Hall, it's a nice roomy place to meet folks before you go in. But if you're in the upper bowl and have to take those escalators up, wooof.

I really, really, dig the bar seating at the top of the lower bowl though. My buddy's company has seasons there and I've been a few times and awesome.

[chedder]

Originally Posted by shutout

https://variety.com/2024/biz/news/st...ng-1235899179/



Like everything that I read and hear about the Intuit arena for the Clippers.

Designed around expanding and maximizing the fan and in game experience.

And built entirely (save for $9 million) from private funding. The difference between a Steve Balmer and a Murray Edwards. Balmer is 40 times richer, mind you.

[Macindoc]

Originally Posted by chedder

And built entirely (save for $9 million) from private funding. The difference between a Steve Balmer and a Murray Edwards. Balmer is 40 times richer, mind you.

Doesn't hurt that the market in Los Angeles is almost 20 times the size of the Calgary market (18.64M in the metro area). That venue will host a sold out event every night of the year, so the economics of it aren't even remotely comparable.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by kukkudo

Rogers Place is a very poorly designed arena after being too many Oilers games. The washroom lines are brutal, and getting in and out of the arena is congested. There are lots of bottlenecks that I hope are corrected in the new Flames arena.

It's crazy that it was built at the same time as T-Mobil and is so much worse.

[getbak]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I just hope they don't do that thing where they make the home team walk past a lounge or public area on their way to the ice, like they do in Edmonton. I have seen other arenas do the same thing. It just seems awkward and weird to me, especially after a bad game.

It will have that. It was called the Founders Club on the 2021 plans.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by GFG#1

That is incorrect. The Saddledome was modelled after an arena built in 1971 in Sweden. This list shows multiple buildings similar in shape to the dome going back to 1952 with the Scandinavium being the closest, and then another one built in London in 2011.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...oid_structures

I never said the Saddledome was the first building to have a roof like that. You assumed that was what I meant. I meant that the designers were trying to be creative with things like the luxury suites and the layout of the concourses, and because they made the whole shebang out of poured concrete, most of their mistakes were not fixable.

As they say, don't make assumptions: it makes an Ass out of U and Mption. Which is a damn silly thing to say, but there you are.

[jaikorven]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

As they say, don't make assumptions: it makes an Ass out of U and Mption. Which is a damn silly thing to say, but there you are.

It is, don't assume: it makes an Ass out of U and Me.

[PepsiFree]

Pretty sure it’s “don’t go assuming, it makes an ass out of U and Ming”

As if the Ming Dynasty hadn’t been through enough.

[Sidney Crosby's Hat]

Originally Posted by GFG#1

The Saddledome has a hyperboloid roof structure. Not all the buildings on that list look like the dome, but it was the first list I could find that had multiple buildings like it. you have to scan through to see the ones like the dome.
1952
1954
1962
1971
1983(Saddledome)
2011

there might be others on the list that was just a quick scan, there is for sure other buildings in the world like it. I believe at one time I heard around 20. SOme others have already been listed.

Scandinavium in Gothenburg is another. It's hosted some NHL Global Series games in recent years. That's likely the 1971 one you mention there.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

It's crazy that it was built at the same time as T-Mobil and is so much worse.

T-Mobile was built in Las Vegas, which exists solely to entertain people. They have experts who know how to do these things.

Rogers Place was built in Edmonton, which exists primarily to annoy Calgarians. They have experts who know how to make things smelly.

[Lewis_D]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Isn't that one of the big reasons for the new arena. To reduce the lineups and congestion.

They should also put in a few more toilets.

I think the problem with that happening in Edmonton was that they likely miscalculated the amount of toilets required due to the surrounding area and the arena itself also resembling toilets.

[The Yen Man]

Originally Posted by Macindoc

Doesn't hurt that the market in Los Angeles is almost 20 times the size of the Calgary market (18.64M in the metro area). That venue will host a sold out event every night of the year, so the economics of it aren't even remotely comparable.

Lol, I was just going to say, I didn't realize the Saddledome was overbooked 365 days a year with events to help Murray out.

[Kidder]

A lot of Edmontonians wear Depends, which probably factored into their calculations.

[Jordan!]

Originally Posted by Locke

Exactly! This ain't no Phoenix anymore Don! We will hide in the trunk of your car and chase you around your yard while screaming:

"What kind of Bowl composition will the new Arena have??? Tell me Don!! TELL ME!!!"

And yes Don...that phone call? Its coming....from inside the house...