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Old 08-11-2017, 08:40 AM   #61
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Sounds like the death was accidental due to the way he fell. If you start a fight and both sides agree to go the cops consider it a mutual fight and won't lay charges. Even if your the one attacked.
Not only are you wrong, but witnesses said the victim was sucker punched.
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Old 08-12-2017, 08:43 AM   #62
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northcrunk is likely referring to mutual combat, which is a thing in some jurisdictions like Washington state. Certainly not applicable in Canada nor in this situation even if we were in Washington.
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Old 08-12-2017, 09:23 AM   #63
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but I don't think that it would be reasonable to expect no consequence from throwing a ciggerette butt. It's like spitting in someone's face
If only smokers thought this way.
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Old 08-12-2017, 11:11 AM   #64
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It's tragic that he ended up dying especially if what was said above about his mental state is true but I don't think that it would be reasonable to expect no consequence from throwing a cigarette butt. It's like spitting in someone's face.
Then the ground gets to punch the butt dropper in the face for possibly exposing it to communicable disease and ultimate disrespect? See, it's not at all like spitting in someone's face because the ground isn't a person.

Doing these things to a person is the only way to put them in the same class of tort and spitting in someone's face is egregiously worse than throwing a cigarette butt at them or the ground. Kind of funny that you'd attach the same levels of offense to both.
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Old 08-12-2017, 11:13 AM   #65
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There should be a special fine for cigarette butts, with the fire hazard it's not just littering but a complete disregard for people and property.
Then every garbage can needs to have an ashtray. There is a reason cigarette butts don't go in the garbage. It's because they are on fire.
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Old 08-12-2017, 01:47 PM   #66
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Then every garbage can needs to have an ashtray. There is a reason cigarette butts don't go in the garbage. It's because they are on fire.
Yeah...like having an ashtray nearby has ever made a difference with a lot of smokers in where their butt ends up when they are outside. I see them put the effort in, when they are/were inside...but if they are outside, they could be standing right next to a garbage can with an ashtray in it, and there's a 90% chance that butt ends up on the ground anyhow.
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I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that the killer is either a cop or a relative of a cop.

I hope I'm wrong though.

*from what I remember of criminal law in class, it would be a one-punch manslaughter case.
I think you may be right. That, or some other high ranking person or someone with powerful relatives. Why else would the Police not release this info to the public?
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Old 08-13-2017, 10:40 AM   #68
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have they caught the puncher yet?
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Old 08-13-2017, 11:21 AM   #69
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have they caught the puncher yet?
It sounds like they know who it is, but have not made an arrest because no charges have yet been laid. Something just seems off in this whole story.
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It sounds like they know who it is, but have not made an arrest because no charges have yet been laid. Something just seems off in this whole story.
The culprit must have a lot of power or pull with law enforcement.. Could be a big cover-up. Just like the Taman Inquiry of 2005
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Old 08-13-2017, 09:53 PM   #71
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Something doesn't add up here. There are holes in this entire story.
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