2017/2018 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by kukkudo

Just get ready for that tattoo bro.

5-10% of the reason I actually want it to happen. It would be higher but the sheer awesomeness of having Tavares centering our first line is just so magnificent.

[Knut]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

I can't believe we are still talking about Tavares like it is a remote possibility, it isn't. How about we discuss anything in the realm of actual possibility? I mean it is a free board to wish and dream about whatever you want but John Tavares is not going to be a Flame. I have a better chance of winning LottoMax and getting hit by lighting at the same time.

You keep harping on this, but The Flames are one of the few teams that can offer him a chance to win now and pay him 11M/Season. So it is reasonable to talk about it.

Don't read the thread if you do not want to read Tavares speculation

[Aarongavey]

If the Leafs were ever actually interested in Hamonic, I would see if there is a deal structured around Hamonic for Nylander or Marner. Leafs actually have a pretty good cap situation, but a trade like that could free up some space for them to take a run at John Tavares which would give them impressive depth at center (Matthews, Tavares and Kadri) with enough servicable wingers (one of Marner/Nylander, Hyman, Brown, Marleau, possible re-signing of JVR and Johnsson coming up from the minors).

I have my doubts as to whether Hamonic has much value, but that would be a trade that could possibly help both teams.

[Mr.Coffee]

Not convinced Calgary is a cup contender even with Tavares but won’t deny it doesn’t make them better.

It’s been said many times on this site but when you watch the playoffs and then recall to the last 20 games of our season....... Calgary looked pretty far away from being competitive for the Cup.

Will reserve judgment until we see how Peters’ Flames perform but Calgary has a LONG way to go to be cup contenders and Tavares doesn’t fix them overnight.

[Toonage]

The last 20 games that included injuries and a depleted roster that was missing (at various stages)
Gaudreau
Monahan
Tkachuk
Brodie
Smith

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Hes

You keep harping on this, but The Flames are one of the few teams that can offer him a chance to win now and pay him 11M/Season. So it is reasonable to talk about it.

Don't read the thread if you do not want to read Tavares speculation

No, they really can't. Tkachuk is going to not be cheap, assuming he keeps on the trajectory he is on he is looking at Gaudreau money, possibly more. The year after Brodie and Hamonic will both need raises and the year after that Hamilton will. Yet you want to spend 11M/season on a position that is not even a need. Hey, go ahead and clog the thread up with useless speculation though. Shall we ponder trading for Crosby or McDavid as well?

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by Toonage

The last 20 games that included injuries and a depleted roster that was missing (at various stages)
Gaudreau
Monahan
Tkachuk
Brodie
Smith

It comes down to coaching, but Calgary was a pretty ugly team. It’s possible even without Tavares and a new coach / same roster the Flames emerge as a great team.

The biggest problem was coaching, but I’m not 100% sure we know it also wasn’t that the players just aren’t good enough. So I’m not therefore convinced that one star makes them a contender overnight when they didn’t even finish this season in the top 1/2 of the league. Rather, that they finished 20th in the NHL should ground people in reality that they have much, much to prove to be considered a contender, even with John Tavares (who’s coming here i’d peg at about 1%).

Every team has a reason he may want to play there. San Jose? Dallas? Hell even Edmonton has the new arena & McDavid factors. Every fan base is telling themselves why Tavares would want to come play there.

[Knut]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

No, they really can't. Tkachuk is going to not be cheap, assuming he keeps on the trajectory he is on he is looking at Gaudreau money, possibly more. The year after Brodie and Hamonic will both need raises and the year after that Hamilton will. Yet you want to spend 11M/season on a position that is not even a need. Hey, go ahead and clog the thread up with useless speculation though. Shall we ponder trading for Crosby or McDavid as well?

Brodie and Hamonic will either be gone to FA, traded or kept at a lower/similar rate.

You also have movable pieces in Frolik and Stone who will both have one year remaining on their contracts after next season.

Brouwer can be buried in the AHL after next season or bought out much cheaper.

[Toonage]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

It comes down to coaching, but Calgary was a pretty ugly team. It’s possible even without Tavares and a new coach / same roster the Flames emerge as a great team.

The biggest problem was coaching, but I’m not 100% sure we know it also wasn’t that the players just aren’t good enough. So I’m not therefore convinced that one star makes them a contender overnight when they didn’t even finish this season in the top 1/2 of the league. Rather, that they finished 20th in the NHL should ground people in reality that they have much, much to prove to be considered a contender, even with John Tavares (who’s coming here i’d peg at about 1%).

Every team has a reason he may want to play there. San Jose? Dallas? Hell even Edmonton has the new arena & McDavid factors. Every fan base is telling themselves why Tavares would want to come play there.

My comment wasn't about Tavares so much as you really can't compare the team that limped (and outright collapsed) over the last 20 games of the season to any team currently in the playoffs. The Flames over the last 20 games were a shell of the team that sat in a playoff spot a month or so prior to that.

Totally agree that the same team and a new coach could be excellent, and consistent.

[Svartsengi]

Finnish goaltender Mikko Koskinen just signed a 1year deal with the Oilers worth $2.5 million according to capfriendly. He has been a great performer internationally and in KHL for years.

Didn't Brad Treliving say last year he tried to sign Koskinen but it would have worked out to $5 million per year?. Perhaps Mikko didn't want to come to Calgary very much.

[Ashasx]

That doesn't sound like information Brad would share.

[Svartsengi]

I believe Brad gave a radio interview on Fan 960 indicating that because the salaries in KHL are tax free the money paid to Mikko would work out to $5 million in NHL. He then traded for Mike Smith a short time later. Anybody else remember hearing this interview?.

[Yoho]

Originally Posted by Svartsengi

Finnish goaltender Mikko Koskinen just signed a 1year deal with the Oilers worth $2.5 million according to capfriendly. He has been a great performer internationally and in KHL for years.

Didn't Brad Treliving say last year he tried to sign Koskinen but it would have worked out to $5 million per year?. Perhaps Mikko didn't want to come to Calgary very much.

Mikko should fire his agent if that is the case.

[mikephoen]

Originally Posted by Svartsengi

I believe Brad gave a radio interview on Fan 960 indicating that because the salaries in KHL are tax free the money paid to Mikko would work out to $5 million in NHL. He then traded for Mike Smith a short time later. Anybody else remember hearing this interview?.

I don't think Treliving has ever discussed dollar figures for any player that they didn't sign, so I'm pretty sure this interview you remember was from a dream you had.

[Svartsengi]

Originally Posted by mikephoen

I don't think Treliving has ever discussed dollar figures for any player that they didn't sign, so I'm pretty sure this interview you remember was from a dream you had.

Certain it wasn't a dream. Perhaps he didn't talk about trying to sign Mikko but stated what his NHL equivalent salary would be. I am not too concerned with Flames goaltending right now Brad has other holes to try and fill.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

No, they really can't. Tkachuk is going to not be cheap, assuming he keeps on the trajectory he is on he is looking at Gaudreau money, possibly more. The year after Brodie and Hamonic will both need raises and the year after that Hamilton will. Yet you want to spend 11M/season on a position that is not even a need. Hey, go ahead and clog the thread up with useless speculation though. Shall we ponder trading for Crosby or McDavid as well?

No, but if they were free agents and in situations they don’t seem happy with then I would absolutely think about that as a possibility.

Flames can pay him $11mil next season. You worry about the remaining seasons as time goes on. Obviously for Tavares you don’t retain both Hamonic and Brodie. But you don’t want to read about options related to Tavares so I won’t get into it.

[GoJetsGo]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

The year after Brodie and Hamonic will both need raises

According to you Brodie is useless and is going to be shot into the sun. Now he's part of the long term plans when you're ranting that all Tavares discussion be stopped?

[bax]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

No, they really can't. Tkachuk is going to not be cheap, assuming he keeps on the trajectory he is on he is looking at Gaudreau money, possibly more. The year after Brodie and Hamonic will both need raises and the year after that Hamilton will. Yet you want to spend 11M/season on a position that is not even a need. Hey, go ahead and clog the thread up with useless speculation though. Shall we ponder trading for Crosby or McDavid as well?

It's speculation- of course fans will speculate on the biggest free agent signing with their team.

I would also argue that center depth is a need. Backlund as your number 2 just isn't good enough if you're planning on competing for a Stanley Cup. Adding a player like Tavares pushes everyone down a notch and gives Calgary three stellar pairs on each line.

You wouldn't consider signing Tavares because Hamonic and Brodie will need raises in a few years? Especially when the greatest strength of our prospect pool is our defense? That seems like a poor way to build a team. Ideally we have young players taking those spots in a few years.

Crosby and McDavid aren't free agents...0% chance there.

Tavares might only be a 2% chance, but even then 2% is worth speculation.

[The Yen Man]

Originally Posted by Svartsengi

Finnish goaltender Mikko Koskinen just signed a 1year deal with the Oilers worth $2.5 million according to capfriendly. He has been a great performer internationally and in KHL for years.

Didn't Brad Treliving say last year he tried to sign Koskinen but it would have worked out to $5 million per year?. Perhaps Mikko didn't want to come to Calgary very much.

Lol, sounds like Karri Ramo 2.0.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

How much does McDonald's pay these days anyway?

Originally Posted by RoughRiderRowdy

Im not sure. Why dont you look at your pay stub

This was excellent.