Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community
Old 03-04-2019, 03:01 PM   #361
Wormius
Franchise Player
 
Wormius's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Somewhere down the crazy river.
Exp:
Default

I am not sure what the Tesla dealerships are like outside of Calgary, but it’s pretty much as close to an online shop as you can get, while having a physical presence. It’s basically just a car in a room, and then a bunch more in the underground parkade for test driving. Unless they did some updates to the dealership in Chinook in the last few years.
Wormius is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-04-2019, 03:08 PM   #362
accord1999
Scoring Winger
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Exp:
Default

Tesla Calgary moved to a site on Fairmount that now includes a service centre.


https://www.google.com/maps/uv?hl=en...px8wCnoECAUQCw
accord1999 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-04-2019, 04:04 PM   #363
You Need a Thneed
Voted for Kodos
 
You Need a Thneed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wormius View Post
I am not sure what the Tesla dealerships are like outside of Calgary, but it’s pretty much as close to an online shop as you can get, while having a physical presence. It’s basically just a car in a room, and then a bunch more in the underground parkade for test driving. Unless they did some updates to the dealership in Chinook in the last few years.
Tesla store in Chinook was gone already.

I don’t know what there current announcement means for the fairmont drive location.
__________________
My LinkedIn Profile.
You Need a Thneed is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-04-2019, 04:10 PM   #364
You Need a Thneed
Voted for Kodos
 
You Need a Thneed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wormius View Post
I am not sure what the Tesla dealerships are like outside of Calgary, but it’s pretty much as close to an online shop as you can get, while having a physical presence. It’s basically just a car in a room, and then a bunch more in the underground parkade for test driving. Unless they did some updates to the dealership in Chinook in the last few years.
Also, this is still sort of correct for any of their dealerships. Many states still have laws where auto manufacturers cannot sell directly to the consumer. Tesla wanted to sell directly to the consumer, so they get around laws by showing cars only in their “dealerships”, and then letting the person buy online based on what they saw in the dealership. Having dealerships would have essentially made last week’s permanent price reduction impossible. It’s always been part of Tesla’s plan to drop prices when they would be able to.
__________________
My LinkedIn Profile.
You Need a Thneed is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to You Need a Thneed For This Useful Post:
Old 03-04-2019, 07:27 PM   #365
accord1999
Scoring Winger
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Exp:
Default

The Tesla Fairmount location may have closed. It's no longer listed here:


https://www.tesla.com/en_CA/findus/list/services/Canada


Whereas it was listed in the past:


https://web.archive.org/web/20181213...ervices/Canada


It also disappeared from the list of stores.
accord1999 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-05-2019, 12:46 PM   #366
TorqueDog
#1 Goaltender
 
TorqueDog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Calgary, AB
Exp:
Default

Wait, so if they've now closed the Fairmount Tesla location... how exactly does one get service on one of these damned things? Send it to Vancouver?

Maybe if you had the money to drop on a loaded Model S or Model X, but a Model 3 is ever so slightly more expensive than a BMW 2-Series and I can't imagine that someone in that price bracket can afford to ship their car to Vancouver to get regular maintenance done, never mind a major service.
__________________
If the Flames are playing, GO FLAMES GO.
If the Jets are playing, GO JE-... nm, ғ**ĸ the Jets.
GO FLAMES GO.
TorqueDog is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-05-2019, 01:42 PM   #367
Dirty Mr. Clean
First Line Centre
 
Dirty Mr. Clean's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
Exp:
Default

All the service is very easy to do your self.

https://www.tesla.com/en_CA/support/car-maintenance

Tire rotations and brake fluid are the tough ones.
Dirty Mr. Clean is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-05-2019, 01:51 PM   #368
Fuzz
Franchise Player
 
Fuzz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Exp:
Default

I think it's more for "if something breaks". Any shop should be able to do tires, brakes etc. It's the non-scheduled maintenance that gets to be an issue. I thought they had certified shops to do that stuff, but a quick check didn't turn anything up.
__________________
Air Canada - We're not happy until you're not happy.
Telus - Almost as bad as Winnipeg.
Calgary Roads Dept - Ya, we'll get to that.
Fuzz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-05-2019, 01:52 PM   #369
NuclearFart
First Line Centre
 
NuclearFart's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TorqueDog View Post
Wait, so if they've now closed the Fairmount Tesla location... how exactly does one get service on one of these damned things? Send it to Vancouver?

Maybe if you had the money to drop on a loaded Model S or Model X, but a Model 3 is ever so slightly more expensive than a BMW 2-Series and I can't imagine that someone in that price bracket can afford to ship their car to Vancouver to get regular maintenance done, never mind a major service.
If it's truly gone, I assume they will revert back to their mobile "Rangers" who will come directly to your house and service the car there - which is extremely convenient.

Prior to the Fairmount service shop opening, they had certified Calgary Coachworks to do all the major Tesla stuff if a ranger couldn't handle it.
NuclearFart is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to NuclearFart For This Useful Post:
Old 03-05-2019, 02:13 PM   #370
NuclearFart
First Line Centre
 
NuclearFart's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fuzz View Post

That Polestar(Volvo(Geely)) is going to destroy them in China before they even get a foothold.
I'm curious why you think you think this, is it because of the Chinese ownership? Volvo currently lacks market share in China, largely because its not on par with the other luxury brands like Mercedes/BMW, and status symbols are highly important in Chinese consumerism.

Short of some serious government intervention, I don't see them turning that around with a car exhibiting Subaru styling and a "vegan" (= PLASTIC) interior.
NuclearFart is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-05-2019, 03:40 PM   #371
Fuzz
Franchise Player
 
Fuzz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Exp:
Default

Ya, I think Chinese ownership gives them motivation to beat out Tesla in their own country. And given how the Chinese government has been acting lately, I wouldn't be surprised if there are some favourable actions that give Geely an advantage.


I also think it looks nicer than the Tesla's.
__________________
Air Canada - We're not happy until you're not happy.
Telus - Almost as bad as Winnipeg.
Calgary Roads Dept - Ya, we'll get to that.
Fuzz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-05-2019, 03:47 PM   #372
Fuzz
Franchise Player
 
Fuzz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Exp:
Default




Good summary on Tesla's challenges there.
__________________
Air Canada - We're not happy until you're not happy.
Telus - Almost as bad as Winnipeg.
Calgary Roads Dept - Ya, we'll get to that.
Fuzz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-05-2019, 03:50 PM   #373
accord1999
Scoring Winger
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by NuclearFart View Post
If it's truly gone, I assume they will revert back to their mobile "Rangers" who will come directly to your house and service the car there - which is extremely convenient.
Convenient for the owner, but inefficient and expensive to have skilled technicians who bill at $120-$180/hour spend much of their work day driving.
accord1999 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-11-2019, 09:45 AM   #374
Fuzz
Franchise Player
 
Fuzz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Exp:
Default

Looks like they will be keeping a lot of locations open....whoops!


Quote:
The electric car maker has offered few details about which of its 106 stores and galleries in 26 states it plans to close. Even many shopping center landlords say they have heard nothing from the company about whether their Tesla store will be shut down, according to real-estate brokers and landlords.
What is clearer is how much Tesla owes in future rent payments. The company has total lease obligations of $1.6 billion, with $1.1 billion due between this year and 2023, according to its securities filings. The payments include leases for stores, galleries and other uses including real estate abroad.
In a February securities filing, Tesla said it has “various non-cancellable operating lease agreements,” and any effort by the company to terminate those leases could result in legal battles. Landlords could seek a court injunction to prevent Tesla from closing stores before the lease expiration. 
https://jalopnik.com/tesla-on-laying...s-j-1833199566
__________________
Air Canada - We're not happy until you're not happy.
Telus - Almost as bad as Winnipeg.
Calgary Roads Dept - Ya, we'll get to that.
Fuzz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-11-2019, 02:05 PM   #375
Fuzz
Franchise Player
 
Fuzz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Exp:
Default

Quote:
When asked about the 78 percent statistic specifically, the first word out of four of the six employees’ mouths were “bull####.” Regardless of whether they used that exact word, all of them dismissed the figure as misleading at best and outright fabricated at worst.
For months, they had been directed to have customers buy cars themselves through the Tesla website, even if they’re sitting right next to them in the store. But many buyers place an order on their phones after talking with a salesperson for hours or even making multiple visits. Others come into the store, think about it, and then buy online later. In retrospect, multiple employees now suspect this directive as a scheme to orchestrate their own obsolescence.


Due to various state-level franchise laws, Tesla cannot directly sell cars in their stores in several states, including some in the stores for the employees I spoke to. In those cases, as a matter of law, all orders must be placed online, yet another reason the 78 percent figure is misleading. Employees can’t even fill out the online form for the customer, but must direct the customer to order the car on their phone (some do anyways, multiple employees told Jalopnik).



It’s also not clear how Tesla is counting customers who come in to the store because they want to see the very expensive car they’re about to buy but don’t go for an official test drive. Maybe they just talk to a salesperson, learn how the charging system works, and sit in the car for a bit. Or their spouse or partner does the test drive. These are all common pre-buying scenarios, the salespeople said, yet appear to be counted as “online” sales even though it’s highly unlikely the sale would have happened without an in-person store visit.

https://jalopnik.com/tesla-employees...-am-1833201246


Interesting stuff here...it sure sounds like management at Tesla has little idea of how it operates...It does explain those high numbers of "online orders". I'd like to know how many orders happen online from people who buy sight unseen(other than walking past one on a street). I'm guessing it's closer to 10%.
__________________
Air Canada - We're not happy until you're not happy.
Telus - Almost as bad as Winnipeg.
Calgary Roads Dept - Ya, we'll get to that.
Fuzz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-11-2019, 03:14 PM   #376
DownInFlames
Craig McTavish' Merkin
 
DownInFlames's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by accord1999 View Post
The Tesla Fairmount location may have closed. It's no longer listed here:


https://www.tesla.com/en_CA/findus/list/services/Canada


Whereas it was listed in the past:


https://web.archive.org/web/20181213...ervices/Canada


It also disappeared from the list of stores.
I drive by it regularly and it appears to still be open. There are a bunch of cars inside and on the lot.
DownInFlames is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to DownInFlames For This Useful Post:
Old 03-12-2019, 08:38 AM   #377
ernie
Franchise Player
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Exp:
Default

VW significantly increasing its electric vehicle plans.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/12/busin...ars/index.html

No word on how they'll try to fake emission testing
ernie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2019, 08:50 AM   #378
TorqueDog
#1 Goaltender
 
TorqueDog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Calgary, AB
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fuzz View Post
Ya, I think Chinese ownership gives them motivation to beat out Tesla in their own country. And given how the Chinese government has been acting lately, I wouldn't be surprised if there are some favourable actions that give Geely an advantage.


I also think it looks nicer than the Tesla's.
Holy crap, you weren't kidding. The Polestar 1 is gorgeous. 🤤

They need to sell these in North America.
__________________
If the Flames are playing, GO FLAMES GO.
If the Jets are playing, GO JE-... nm, ғ**ĸ the Jets.
GO FLAMES GO.
TorqueDog is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2019, 09:58 AM   #379
Wormius
Franchise Player
 
Wormius's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Somewhere down the crazy river.
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TorqueDog View Post
Holy crap, you weren't kidding. The Polestar 1 is gorgeous. 🤤

They need to sell these in North America.

I am interested in the subscription service that they'll be having. I guesss that is like a new version of a lease? I am a bit more interested in the Polestar 2. I don't know if I am fully on board with a hybrid. Some might think its the best of both worlds, but it seems like twice the maintenance pains. It will be interesting to see what a real car manufacturer will do with an EV.
Wormius is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2019, 10:02 AM   #380
ernie
Franchise Player
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TorqueDog View Post
Holy crap, you weren't kidding. The Polestar 1 is gorgeous. ��

They need to sell these in North America.
Yep. Volvo can do a really nice job when they want to.
ernie is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:11 AM.

Calgary Flames
2017-18




Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright Calgarypuck 2016