Big Brother 20

[Oling_Roachinen]

I wish they would show more jury stuff in recent weeks. Maybe it was just boring, but there was a lot of unexciting fillers on the show lately as well.

Based on that segment I would say that, at least if JC takes Tyler, Tyler would win.

Tyler: Angela, KC, Brett, Scottie and Hayleigh
JC: Rockstar

Faysal had a good relationship with JC in the house, but will probably vote who Hayleigh wants him to. But I also suspect there's a good chance he accidentally finds a Josh key from last season and puts that one in.

Sure, Bayleigh exploded blood against Tyler. But Bayleigh did not get along with JC in the house. Any tension left over from the "N-Word" incident could easily have her vote against JC regardless of who he was up against.

Sam is bitter with Tyler. But I think does have the opportunity to listen to his answers, and a heart-filled apology and explanation could sway her.

[Oling_Roachinen]

Also like Fessy calling out Bayleigh on the couch.

You had Bayleigh, who told the otherside of the house her power and never used it, and Rockstar, who gave Tyler the answer to the veto that saved him. Glad he didn't take the mocking, cause they were all equally stupid.

[Calgary14]

If the jury votes with emotion rather than looking at the game strategically that further lowers Tyler's chances. Haleigh seems to understand how much influence Tyler has but some of the others can't get past their own pettiness

I never, ever would have thought JC would make it this far.

Sunday's episode will be a boring recap where they all sit around the table and read scripted lines

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

I wish they would show more jury stuff in recent weeks. Maybe it was just boring, but there was a lot of unexciting fillers on the show lately as well.

Based on that segment I would say that, at least if JC takes Tyler, Tyler would win.

Tyler: Angela, KC, Brett, Scottie and Hayleigh
JC: Rockstar

Faysal had a good relationship with JC in the house, but will probably vote who Hayleigh wants him to. But I also suspect there's a good chance he accidentally finds a Josh key from last season and puts that one in.

Sure, Bayleigh exploded blood against Tyler. But Bayleigh did not get along with JC in the house. Any tension left over from the "N-Word" incident could easily have her vote against JC regardless of who he was up against.

Sam is bitter with Tyler. But I think does have the opportunity to listen to his answers, and a heart-filled apology and explanation could sway her.

Problem is it's not likely JC win's two or three straight competitions against Tyler and Kaycee. If Kaycee wins I feel she follows through and takes Tyler. If Tyler wins and doesn't take Kaycee she's going to be pretty sour on him and I wouldn't bank on that vote. Maybe we will get a better indication when Will does the annual jury house interview to see where they are leaning.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

I think it depends on whether or not they value Tyler being in charge and scheming with every houseguest or view him as a backstabbing liar.

I think he deserves to lose. He lies and schemes now even when he doesn't have to. Maybe doesn't deserve to lose to JC but definitely to KC.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

What? What?

Swaggy proposed? What the actual ####?

Stole the show. Who cares who won?

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Stole the show. Who cares who won?

Me.


Two of the biggest fame whoring narcissistic people getting engaged to make a spectacle after knowing each other for literally three weeks. Ugh. I couldn't stop physically cringing.

Scottie sucks, I hate bitter superfans. Knew Tyler played the best game, but didn't vote for him because he's a baby.

[Calgary14]

Swaggy, always trying so hard to steal the spotlight. He just had to wear one of his swaggy t-shirts.

KC played a great game overall and deserved to win. Tyler played well too but didn't deal well with a bitter jury

[savardandjokinen]

LOL. How long did these people know each other before they got married?

Kaycee is a good winner but Tyler did play the best game

Great season overall, one of the best in recent memory

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by savardandjokinen

LOL. How long did these people know each other before they got married?

23 days. Plus Swaggy would have watched her on feeds for another couple weeks...because that's normal.

[GoinAllTheWay]

Originally Posted by savardandjokinen

Great season overall, one of the best in recent memory

Respectfully disagree. Started off well. Really well, then just burned out. The last half of the season was a major snooze fest up to, and including, the finale. Only highlight of the night was Haleighs dress.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by GoinAllTheWay

Respectfully disagree. Started off well. Really well, then just burned out. The last half of the season was a major snooze fest up to, and including, the finale. Only highlight of the night was Haleighs dress.

Yeah when the most interesting thing in the last third of the season is two of my most hated HGs of all time getting engaged you know there's a problem.

I don't even blame production on this one. It was just HGs making bad decisions.

I can't remember the last time I cared so little about who won. KC was a comp beast but otherwise one of the least entertaining players in recent memory. She did nothing interesting the entire 3 months. Tyler told a bunch of unnecessary lies and let his game get off track but at least he was trying to play BB. I guess on the plus side is that I don't mind either KC or Tyler. They both seem like good people.

The finale as a whole was kind of disappointing. Not nearly enough jury interview time. Way too much time on useless crap and then the entire question period and key ceremony in about 5 minutes. Both KC and Tyler gave terrible responses to almost all the questions. It's like they gave a bunch of bad, rushed speeches instead of responding to the questions. Even Julie noticed and tried to nudge them to stop giving blanket speeches and answer the specific questions. Once again the dominant player fails to own up to his mistakes and loses because of it. I wish I had a solution but unfortunately supporting status quo seems to always win out.

Strategy for all HGs should be to avoid HOH, win veto, never use veto, always vote with the house but never initiate any action or evictions.

I would have been much happier if it was JC and Angela as F2. He's a maniac and was constantly scheming and she was full on ruthless the 2nd half of the season.

Overall not a bad cast except Sam. I may not have liked Bay, Kaitlyn, R* or Swaggy but damn they provided entertainment.

Interested to see who is on Celeb BB. It was a short season but probably the most satisfying and entertaining season beginning to end for quite a few years.

[GoinAllTheWay]

Agreed.

I really didn't care who won either but still feel like the wrong person won IMO. I kinda felt like JC should win. If for no other reason than I feel like the poor guy could use a win in his life. I felt so bad for that guy when, near the end, the HG were getting taped messages from family and his was from a friend, no family. You could tell that really hurt him. Felt bad for him in a big way.

Kaycee was a good winner too I guess but felt like Tyler was really playing the game. May have gotten carried away a few times but that guy was walking a thin line that could have really blown up in his face but it never really happened.

I remember KC mentioning one time her mother never really supported her coming out. I got the feeling that's been a strained relationship. Yet her mom comes running up on stage arms wide open beaming with pride. Hope that's not just because KC is $500k richer.

At the end of the day, I really do think the winner was picked by a bitter jury.

[alan21]

Haleigh cleans up nice.
Fessy the real winner here.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Speaking of couples, I can't believe Jess and Cody are still together. Won TAR, got married (or are about to get married?), just announced they're expecting.

I would've pegged them for immediate post BB break up. Just like I'm predicting for Bay/Dbag and Fess/Hay. Tyler and Angela might have a chance. Especially since I think they live close to each other.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by GoinAllTheWay

Agreed.

I really didn't care who won either but still feel like the wrong person won IMO. I kinda felt like JC should win. If for no other reason than I feel like the poor guy could use a win in his life. I felt so bad for that guy when, near the end, the HG were getting taped messages from family and his was from a friend, no family. You could tell that really hurt him. Felt bad for him in a big way.

Kaycee was a good winner too I guess but felt like Tyler was really playing the game. May have gotten carried away a few times but that guy was walking a thin line that could have really blown up in his face but it never really happened.

I remember KC mentioning one time her mother never really supported her coming out. I got the feeling that's been a strained relationship. Yet her mom comes running up on stage arms wide open beaming with pride. Hope that's not just because KC is $500k richer.

At the end of the day, I really do think the winner was picked by a bitter jury.

Tale of two strategies.

Kaycee managed to take herself out of elimination for 8 of the possible 16 evictions, and in the process, didn't have to hurt anyone's feelings or engender any bitterness.

Tyler, while engineering more of the who went home strategy for self-preservation, eventually had to deal with the ramifications of doing that.

I think the final vote reflected that both of them had solid strategies for winning and it really could've gone either way.

Definitely don't think Kaycee was any less deserving of being there at the end and eventually winning than if Tyler had won. Tyler made a critical error bringing her to the end.

[mile]

Kaycee's answer was perfect in that tiebreaker, incredibly impressive.

Was pretty sure Kaycee would beat both Tyler and JC at the end, but final vote was much closer than I thought it would be. Thought Tyler would only get 2 votes at most.

Kaycee's game was perfect for the way BB is played now and how the jury format is today. I think Tyler wins easily if he played 10 years ago with the old jury format and had more time to explain his answers. The fact that Tyler stayed safe at Final 3 and Final 4 because of Kaycee's wins I think also played a factor.

What a great season. It's somewhere in the top 5 seasons overall for me and definitely the best modern season since BB10. BB11-BB19 were all pretty meh to bad, except for maybe BB17 and 14.

Originally Posted by GoinAllTheWay

Respectfully disagree. Started off well. Really well, then just burned out. The last half of the season was a major snooze fest up to, and including, the finale. Only highlight of the night was Haleighs dress.

Brett's blindside, JC's unexpected HoH win, Part 3 of the HoH, and the close vote tonight made the endgame a lot better than I thought it would.

Every season has at least a few boring weeks, but the boring stretches this season were nothing compared to the last few seasons.

[Calgary14]

In some ways the finale was basically a spin off of the bachelor, way too much emphasis on the showmances and waaaaaay too much airtime for the Chris proposal

[Erick Estrada]

The finale felt pretty rushed to me. I don't recall so many answers during the question period being cut short. Another season where the best player doesn't win. Don't get me wrong Kaycee was a good player but she did absolutely nothing in the first half of the game. Didn't win a competition and just sat in the back of level 6. Tyler from day one was making deals and making moves to influence evictions. Without his work in the first half of the game Kaycee would never have been in the final two chair in the first place. He still almost won despite foutte voting out of spite but Sam's vote ultimately decided Tyler's fate. I think he should have been more transparent with her in the end.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Calgary14

In some ways the finale was basically a spin off of the bachelor, way too much emphasis on the showmances and waaaaaay too much airtime for the Chris proposal

Well to be honest a couple has a better chance of forming a long term relationship out of Big Brother than the bachelor. These people are spending full days, weeks, months together and you learn a lot more about each other than just dating or playing the bachelor game of continuously rotating through partners and eliminating them one by one.