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Old 09-24-2018, 01:27 PM   #3001
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I'm actually surprised how decent BB looks. Classic Soundwave? Awesome!
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Old 09-25-2018, 12:32 PM   #3002
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Hmm.....that seems a tad dark for a Micheal Bay film.
I really wish they would get someone new to direct these movies.
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Old 09-25-2018, 12:46 PM   #3003
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I really wish they would get someone new to direct these movies.
Travis Knight is directing this one, not Michael Bay. He directed Kubo and the Two Strings and also worked on Coraline and ParaNorman, which is why people are a little more excited for this film.
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Old 09-27-2018, 07:22 AM   #3005
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That's a great trailer.
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Old 09-27-2018, 08:58 AM   #3006
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Drago is back!

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I gotta say this looks great! I'm there, but not opening day because I will be at Aquaman but I will be checking this out in theatres for sure.
Classic Starscream and Soundwave?

I'm in even though I will likely regret it lol
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Drago is back!


I'm looking forward to this, I'm glad to see Dolph back, he looks like a broken down fighter now.


I would expect that Ivan was probably shunned by his people and left with nothing and his wife left him.


His whole focus is on revenge against Rocky for ruining his life.


His son was probably raised in poverty, especially after the wall fell, and he was regaled by his father on how Rocky cheated him of his destiny.


I coulda been a contenda.


I really liked the first Creed movie, but felt that the opposing fighter was the weak spot in the movie.


This opponent looks like a killer.
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Ya I definitely want to see Creed 2 in the theater. Support the hell out of Stalone for nailing it in movie #1 even if this one ends up being worse.

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Old 09-27-2018, 11:57 AM   #3010
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I'm looking forward to this, I'm glad to see Dolph back, he looks like a broken down fighter now.


I would expect that Ivan was probably shunned by his people and left with nothing and his wife left him.


His whole focus is on revenge against Rocky for ruining his life.


His son was probably raised in poverty, especially after the wall fell, and he was regaled by his father on how Rocky cheated him of his destiny.


I coulda been a contenda.


I really liked the first Creed movie, but felt that the opposing fighter was the weak spot in the movie.


This opponent looks like a killer.
part of the reason I might not see the movie. young drago is who I'd be cheering for.
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Old 09-27-2018, 02:22 PM   #3011
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Its funny because Rocky IV was really schlocky in a lot of ways. They went over board with the sound effects and the jingos. But it had these amazing movies where you could see the heart of the Rocky 1 and 2 movies.


I still love the scene where Rocky is just taking a beating and he throws that desperation punch and Drago is cut and you see the stunned look on his face and the broadcaster really sells it.


And then the speech in between rounds.


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part of the reason I might not see the movie. young drago is who I'd be cheering for.

When you watch Rocky IV now, you can just imagine what happened to Drago, he was probably pretty much fired by the Soviet Government, his wife left him for a high diving specialist because she was married to him for her genes and his. Then the Soviet Union collapses and he ends up nearly drinking himself to death with cheap potato Vodka and leaving every morning to work in the tractor factor where his co workers make drunken fun of him.
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Old 09-28-2018, 07:26 AM   #3013
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When you watch Rocky IV now, you can just imagine what happened to Drago, he was probably pretty much fired by the Soviet Government, his wife left him for a high diving specialist because she was married to him for her genes and his. Then the Soviet Union collapses and he ends up nearly drinking himself to death with cheap potato Vodka and leaving every morning to work in the tractor factor where his co workers make drunken fun of him.
you're right in that there are so many possible storylines that make the drago family characters much more interesting than the creed side , and would make for a better movie.

watching the creed trailer, I don't know what makes the guy interesting to cheer for. I need a reason to cheer for him and the conflict between his young family and his needs in the ring don't seem compelling.


what stallone should have done is made two movies, like eastwood did with flags of our father and letters from iwo jima.

creed 2 likely deserves a companion movie from the russian point of view.
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I would love that.


I mean I look at how the Rocky Movies started and ended, and what made Rocky 1 and 2 special was that they had really intriguing antagonists.


Rocky 1 - Apollo, the cocky champion, probably build around a combination of Ali and Leonard in that they were so good in their sport that they considered themselves un beatable. But at the same time there was this great story of a champion trying to stay relevant in a sport where he no longer had interesting challenges or opponents.


Rocky 2 - Apollo again. His legacy is being threatened. He didn't even believe that he had really won that fight and he struggles to be able to capture that feeling of invincibility. While he was cocky on the outside, you could see a man on the verge of not believing his own hype.


Rocky 3 - Clubber Lang. They tried with this but it wasn't great. Clubber was supposed to be the mirror of Rocky, or a Rocky without the humanity. Clubber was portrayed as angry and extremely driven. "I train alone, I fight alone". They could have done so much more with Clubber. Not just as a physical specimen and a killer. But a guy that was maybe even a fan of Rocky's who was disappointment that Rocky wasn't the everyman to look up to, but a shielded and protected establishment champ.



Rocky IV - I loved this idea, but they went too 80's in this movie. I know they wanted Ivan to be a mystery, but there's a great story that Ivan was really a slave to his state. That he was abused, and injected with Steroids, and forced to train 20 hours a day to be an extension of the concept of the New Soviet Man. That in the end he broke those chains of soviet slavery and fought as a individual for himself. Instead we got a lot of meaningless training montages.


Rocky V - Again so much wrong with this movie. But they could have had a great villain in a naive formerly abused kid in Tommy Gun. But halfway through the movie they forgot about that storyline and tried to make him just another bad guy. Again Tommy Gun was the anti-rocky who was created by his environment, and then suckered in by a shady manager who was supposed to be Don King.



Rocky Balboa - I actually really liked the story line in this one though it was the most unlikely storyline of all the rocky movies. But Mason Dixon as a champ that wanted his respect. He really was what Tommy Gunn was supposed to be, and it really worked because their main interactions took place in the ring.
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Old 10-01-2018, 04:20 PM   #3016
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He doesn’t seem like he has the pipes in the trailer. Not Elton like in my opinion. I assume they’ll fix it before release?
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Seems a bit odd he'd even need to sing at all. Would people be that bothered if they just used Elton's voice?
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