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Old 01-14-2021, 09:17 AM   #601
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Ahs had stated that all continuing care residents in the Calgary zone have had their first vaccine dose
What exactly does that mean? What is "continuing care"?


EDIT: I googled it. It is the AHS run public LTCs and such. This does not include private LTCs and the like which seem to be at the back of the line compared to the AHS run facilities.

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Old 01-14-2021, 12:09 PM   #602
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https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/vac...rtin-1.5872766

Mostly info that folks already have, but:

-6 Million doses by the end of March in Canada
-"Up to" 1 million doses a week starting in April

Maj.-Gen. Dany Fortin, when asked about provinces looking for more doses, pretty much said that their aren't any more, and that every nation is trying to get more, faster. (I'm paraphrasing here)
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Old 01-14-2021, 12:19 PM   #603
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What exactly does that mean? What is "continuing care"?


EDIT: I googled it. It is the AHS run public LTCs and such. This does not include private LTCs and the like which seem to be at the back of the line compared to the AHS run facilities.
perhaps, I know that Alberta has vaccinated nearly 19 000 LTC residents and I think that is getting close to the total number Shandro said were in Alberta (I may have that wrong). they are making good progress here- but as these folks are mostly getting moderna and those come in certain amounts it maybe a while to get to quite everyone. I am pretty optimistic on this front though
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perhaps, I know that Alberta has vaccinated nearly 19 000 LTC residents and I think that is getting close to the total number Shandro said were in Alberta (I may have that wrong). they are making good progress here- but as these folks are mostly getting moderna and those come in certain amounts it maybe a while to get to quite everyone. I am pretty optimistic on this front though
It does not seem to include private LTC facilities as it seems those are being scheduled now for last week of January or so.
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It does not seem to include private LTC facilities as it seems those are being scheduled now for last week of January or so.
Some Private facilities have been vaccinated already.
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Old 01-14-2021, 05:37 PM   #606
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Data out of Israel is suggesting that a single dose curbs infection by 50% after 14 days:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel...-vaccine-shot/

Good and bad news IMO. The article states that people above 60 may have only received 33% protection. 2 weeks is also a significant amount of time to wait with how fast this thing spreads.

It also looks like Israel providing Pfizer and the WHO with data was a major reason for why they were given so many vaccines early.
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It also looks like Israel providing Pfizer and the WHO with data was a major reason for why they were given so many vaccines early.
Yeah, it looks like that's the primary reason for their large number of doses, and it makes sense from Pfizer's perspective. It's basically a free phase 4 trial in return for early access to doses.
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Old 01-14-2021, 06:18 PM   #608
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Some Private facilities have been vaccinated already.
I can say for a fact that not all have been completed and wonít be for at least another 12 days.

Iím sure it may have to do with size, number in assisted vs independent living etc. Iím learning that there are many distinctions in types of senior facilities and care. And of course many combine different types of care.
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What exactly does that mean? What is "continuing care"?


EDIT: I googled it. It is the AHS run public LTCs and such. This does not include private LTCs and the like which seem to be at the back of the line compared to the AHS run facilities.
Personal anecdote, I know of at least one private place that has a mix of long term care and assisted living that gave the first dose to anyone who wanted it today.

My relative who lives there missed it, because their in the hospital right now
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Personal anecdote, I know of at least one private place that has a mix of long term care and assisted living that gave the first dose to anyone who wanted it today.



My relative who lives there missed it, because their in the hospital right now
I have a similar anecdote. In this case, someone didn't show for their appointment so a staff member friend of mine got it. Her second appointment is booked for end of February.
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Old 01-14-2021, 09:38 PM   #611
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8800 vaccines given in Alberta yesterday. Well in the lead across Canada now.
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Old 01-14-2021, 10:03 PM   #612
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Anyone see this one from today. Hopefully someone has a plan to get all these shots in arms.

https://twitter.com/CMOH_Alberta/sta...543255041?s=19
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Anyone see this one from today. Hopefully someone has a plan to get all these shots in arms.

https://twitter.com/CMOH_Alberta/sta...543255041?s=19
Thats crazy. Can I be on the list in case they don't fill up?
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Yeah, I'm happy to take a spot if they can't fill them all!
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Old 01-15-2021, 12:06 AM   #615
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its depressing because there are hundreds (well probably thousands) of front line health care workers and physicians who have not been deemed eligible yet- however they are getting these same internal email reminders telling their colleagues who have invites to fill the slots. its like a double kick in the shins
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Poland is a real success story for sure. Itís amazing what good government can do.
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Itís an important message to get out but not really a big deal. At 8800 per day we are vaccinating at twice the rate of delivery. Some of that is because of Moderna this week but we were well over 5000 per day with Pfizer which means we have at least 20% people excess capacity.

Start doing all elderly if booking continues to be slow.
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Yeah I see responses to Deena Hinshaw’s tweet from health care workers that are suggesting her tweet isn’t exactly showing the reality of the situation. Any health care workers that are eligible should be getting the shot but if a lot them can’t yet, then her sentiment in the tweet is a bit disingenuous.
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The trial was in and the vaccine has been approved for use in the UK.

And being a participant in the trial doesn't get you preferential treatment as vaccine admin controlled by Dept of Health.
AFAIK placebo arm of any vax covid trial puts you in group 1b in USA. Or maybe it's 1c, but is priority over gen pop
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Poland is a real success story for sure. Itís amazing what good government can do.
....I mean they did okay....twice the death rate of Canada and still averaging over 300 deaths/day. Not sure how Poland qualifies as a "success story" with 900 deaths/milllion, but Sweden is an unmitigated disaster at 1000 deaths/million.
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