Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community
Old 09-25-2021, 01:41 PM   #101
Coach
Franchise Player
 
Coach's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Vancouver
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jay Random View Post
That's possible in theory, but as soon as Eichel is medically cleared to play, that team would be over a barrel. They would have to get rid of the excess cap hit at once, and I think you can safely assume other teams would not be doing them any favours. It would be a hell of a risk, unless you already know Eichel won't be able to play during the regular season.
Or maybe he just happens to be ready just in time for playoffs.

Has that ever happened before?
__________________
Coach is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-25-2021, 01:51 PM   #102
GreenLantern2814
Franchise Player
 
GreenLantern2814's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach View Post
Or maybe he just happens to be ready just in time for playoffs.

Has that ever happened before?
I would guess any trade for Eichel involves salary going the other way.

Nobody can take a $10.5M ticket for prospects and picks alone.
__________________
Mom and Dad love you, Rowan - February 15, 2024
GreenLantern2814 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-25-2021, 02:22 PM   #103
Textcritic
Acerbic Cyberbully
 
Textcritic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach View Post
Or maybe he just happens to be ready just in time for playoffs.

Has that ever happened before?
It happened last year with Kucherov, but just because his own timeline for rehab happened to coincide with the end of the season/start of the playoffs, that does not mean that teams can simply set a date on their own that is most convenient for them. We already know how long Eichel's rehab will take with the disc-replacement surgery—I believe it is two or three months. A team could theoretically make a trade for him in mid-to-late January, and then effectively do this. But what a team cannot do is opt for a player to have surgery, and then set their own timeline for his return.
__________________
Dealing with Everything from Dead Sea Scrolls to Red C Trolls

Quote:
Originally Posted by woob
"...harem warfare? like all your wives dressup and go paintballing?"
"The Lying Pen of Scribes" Ancient Manuscript Forgeries Project
Textcritic is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Textcritic For This Useful Post:
Old 09-25-2021, 02:50 PM   #104
Toonage
Taking a while to get to 5000
 
Toonage's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Exp:
Default

Aljamain Sterling, UFC fighter who had the surgery Eichel wants, has had to delay his comeback due to "lingering neck issues"

Sort of related in that this may be used to examine how this sort of surgery holds up under physical stress.

If interested (paywall)

https://theathletic.com/news/aljamai...s/GAfxmTYcAI7V

Last edited by Toonage; 09-25-2021 at 02:53 PM. Reason: Athletic link provided
Toonage is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Toonage For This Useful Post:
Old 09-25-2021, 02:55 PM   #105
Wish They Could Win
Powerplay Quarterback
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Calgary, AB
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic View Post
It happened last year with Kucherov, but just because his own timeline for rehab happened to coincide with the end of the season/start of the playoffs, that does not mean that teams can simply set a date on their own that is most convenient for them. We already know how long Eichel's rehab will take with the disc-replacement surgery—I believe it is two or three months. A team could theoretically make a trade for him in mid-to-late January, and then effectively do this. But what a team cannot do is opt for a player to have surgery, and then set their own timeline for his return.

The question is… can you kick the cap overage down the line by him being on LTIR when he comes in and then get compliant by trading away roster players before he is ready to return mid season.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Wish They Could Win is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-25-2021, 05:09 PM   #106
GioforPM
Franchise Player
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wish They Could Win View Post
The question is… can you kick the cap overage down the line by him being on LTIR when he comes in and then get compliant by trading away roster players before he is ready to return mid season.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Well, sure.
GioforPM is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-25-2021, 08:25 PM   #107
Coach
Franchise Player
 
Coach's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Vancouver
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic View Post
It happened last year with Kucherov, but just because his own timeline for rehab happened to coincide with the end of the season/start of the playoffs, that does not mean that teams can simply set a date on their own that is most convenient for them. We already know how long Eichel's rehab will take with the disc-replacement surgery—I believe it is two or three months. A team could theoretically make a trade for him in mid-to-late January, and then effectively do this. But what a team cannot do is opt for a player to have surgery, and then set their own timeline for his return.
I dunno. Experimental spine surgery is pretty serious. Case could be made for a long precautionary rehab.
__________________
Coach is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-25-2021, 08:50 PM   #108
Textcritic
Acerbic Cyberbully
 
Textcritic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach View Post
I dunno. Experimental spine surgery is pretty serious. Case could be made for a long precautionary rehab.
Not by the team, it couldn't. And the surgery itself is not experimental; thousands of these procedures are performed every year.

Sent from my SM-G960W using Tapatalk
__________________
Dealing with Everything from Dead Sea Scrolls to Red C Trolls

Quote:
Originally Posted by woob
"...harem warfare? like all your wives dressup and go paintballing?"
"The Lying Pen of Scribes" Ancient Manuscript Forgeries Project
Textcritic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-25-2021, 08:59 PM   #109
Coach
Franchise Player
 
Coach's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Vancouver
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic View Post
Not by the team, it couldn't. And the surgery itself is not experimental; thousands of these procedures are performed every year.

Sent from my SM-G960W using Tapatalk
Maybe there's a setback that results in a doctor's Ferrari.
__________________
Coach is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:16 AM.

Calgary Flames
2023-24




Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright Calgarypuck 2021