View Poll Results: What will happen to Brad Treliving after the end of the season?
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He should and will be fired
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17.06% |
He should be fired, but will continue as the Flames GM
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277 |
28.29% |
He should not and will not be fired
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288 |
29.42% |
He should not but will be fired
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27 |
2.76% |
Unsure if he should be, but he will be fired
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3.78% |
Unsure if he should be, but he will not be fired
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18.69% |
02-27-2021, 02:08 PM
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#621
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by keenan87
This is why the Flames have been mediocre for decades. One win against the worst team in the league and its enough for some.
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Um no, the reaction of a fan, even if he wasn't joking, (but he was) does not dictate how management operates the team
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02-27-2021, 06:47 PM
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#622
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by timbit
Lombardi started from scratch in SJ and built a good to contending team. Went to LA and built a 2 time SC champion. Mentored Hextall in LA, as well.
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I'm sold. Fire Tre and start the rebuild.
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02-27-2021, 06:55 PM
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#623
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Dallas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
Um no, the reaction of a fan, even if he wasn't joking, (but he was) does not dictate how management operates the team
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So customers don’t matter?
Guess it shows
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02-27-2021, 08:01 PM
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#624
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Flamesfan05
So customers don’t matter?
Guess it shows
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lol, yeah - that's the conclusion to draw
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03-01-2021, 07:59 PM
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#625
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Flames Town
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The seat gets hotter and hotter. Get the hell outta here Treliving.
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03-01-2021, 08:25 PM
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#626
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Vancouver
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The case against Treliving has got to be reaching a critical mass now. This is a disaster. His build of the team is crumbling. Time for a massive change.
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03-01-2021, 09:03 PM
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#627
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: back in the 403
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I really wanted it to work out with Treliving, was pulling for him. But retaining Ward as HC and signing him for multiple seasons will never make sense to me, and may be the death knell...I'm sure he knows it too. Wonder if he's going to try any desperation moves before the season is out.
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03-01-2021, 09:08 PM
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#628
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Indiana
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Everyone is saying to trade players and fire the coach.
But first thing is first. Treliving is more at fault than anyone else.
He doesn't deserve the opportunity to hire another coach or make major trades.
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03-01-2021, 09:11 PM
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#629
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by 1qqaaz
Everyone is saying to trade players and fire the coach.
But first thing is first. Treliving is more at fault than anyone else.
He doesn't deserve the opportunity to hire another coach or make major trades.
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He can fire Ward and make Huska interim.
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03-01-2021, 09:16 PM
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#630
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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I still think it would be reactionary to replace Treliving right now or at the end of the season, and it would also saddle an incoming GM with a difficult challenge in reshaping an unfamiliar roster amid a global pandemic. Those calling for change will be even more frustrated by the results
Treliving has made mistakes, but I really like what he has been trying to do with this team.
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03-01-2021, 09:22 PM
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#631
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by Textcritic
I still think it would be reactionary to replace Treliving right now or at the end of the season, and it would also saddle an incoming GM with a difficult challenge in reshaping an unfamiliar roster amid a global pandemic.
Treliving has made mistakes, but I really like what he has been trying to do with this team.
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He’s been the GM close to 7 years what do you like? He’s failed in assembling a roster took him years to find a decent goalie. Team hasn’t had a decent RW since Hudler left not counting Lindholm. Don’t even start with his horrible coach selections.
I get it he’s tried to make changes etc but at the end of the day it’s a performance based league. If I was getting paid big money and was mediocre at my job for 7 years I would be shown the door.
If the Flames make the post season sure keep him for another year. But if they miss he’s gotta go. Time for some new blood from the top to the bench and on the ice.
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03-01-2021, 09:34 PM
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#632
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Textcritic
I still think it would be reactionary to replace Treliving right now or at the end of the season, and it would also saddle an incoming GM with a difficult challenge in reshaping an unfamiliar roster amid a global pandemic. Those calling for change will be even more frustrated by the results
Treliving has made mistakes, but I really like what he has been trying to do with this team.
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Though I am on the side that Treliving shouldn't be fired, it isn't much of an excuse not to do it. Yes, the pandemic is an issue, but there will be 31 other teams making moves in the off-season, and the expansion draft will be happening as well. As for being unfamiliar, every new GM (with the exception of existing management getting promoted into that role) will be unfamiliar with the roster.
Sometimes a fresh set of eyes and a new plan is what a team needs. At some point, attention must be paid to the results of the team and tough decisions made. I am all for Treliving staying on as the GM, but I am personally running out of excuses as to why I feel this way. My only answer is that the next hire might be another Feaster.
We are all held accountable to our jobs in life, and we all have to take responsibility when things don't go well. In 7 years, this team sure has accumulated more talent, but they still haven't even reached the status of 'perennial playoff team', much less 'Cup Contender'.
I am finding it more and more difficult to support the argument that Treliving is a good GM and should be retained. I am still hopeful he makes whatever moves he can to turn this franchise around, but he is ultimately responsible for every single player and coaching staff, so he is just as accountable as anyone else - probably the most accountable really.
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03-01-2021, 09:48 PM
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#633
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Van City - Main St.
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I've found Tre to have done a lot more positive than negative in his time here, but it's time to go now.
It's not all his fault, but his team is a massive failure.
A new GM, new coach, new everything is the only way forward.
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03-01-2021, 10:03 PM
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#634
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Originally Posted by Textcritic
I still think it would be reactionary to replace Treliving right now or at the end of the season, and it would also saddle an incoming GM with a difficult challenge in reshaping an unfamiliar roster amid a global pandemic. Those calling for change will be even more frustrated by the results
Treliving has made mistakes, but I really like what he has been trying to do with this team.
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So just what exactly is it that you perceive he is trying to do?
Other than knowing it’s a ‘process’, I myself am not exactly sure.
I’m all ears. Or eyes, I suppose
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03-01-2021, 11:15 PM
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#635
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache
So just what exactly is it that you perceive he is trying to do?
Other than knowing it’s a ‘process’, I myself am not exactly sure.
I’m all ears. Or eyes, I suppose
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Yes it’s a mystery to me. Other than a dedication to being 10 deep on the blue line when your team isn’t good enough to even compete in the first round of the playoffs, I can’t see what it is he is trying to do.
Much less seeing something to ‘really like’.
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03-01-2021, 11:48 PM
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#636
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Scoring Winger
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I have always supported tree... I thought it was Ward who was the problem
Starting to realize that it is Tree’s job to DO SOMETHING to make those things that are not working
What are u doing Tree?
DO something!
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03-01-2021, 11:58 PM
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#637
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Kamloops
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Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache
So just what exactly is it that you perceive he is trying to do?
Other than knowing it’s a ‘process’, I myself am not exactly sure.
I’m all ears. Or eyes, I suppose
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Treliving has built a stable functional organization that is drafting and developing talent and making the playoffs more often than not.
That's better than some in a very unique and competitive field. He deserves respect and credit.
That said, until someone relieves him of his duties he is bound to be trying to save the season, and as such he is obligated to do the correct thing and replace the coach.
Replacing Ward is the easiest, cleanest, most-likely-to-work and least-likely-to-cripple-the-franchise move that Treliving can make.
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03-02-2021, 12:01 AM
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#638
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Franchise Player
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Unfortunately in this bastardized season his options are extremely limited.
Surely Treliving knows that unless things get turned around quickly his hand will be forced.
So get to work deciding who stays and who goes and make the deals you think will set things up for down the road when the first opportunities arise, whether now or in the summer.
You have your franchise goalie so build from there. And if you don’t have a plan then step aside because as things are this team cannot and will not contend.
As I said in the GT we have no misconceptions as to what we have. This mini playoff format has exposed things that a regular season might not - for one thing that Ward is getting outcoached almost every game.
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03-02-2021, 12:25 AM
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#640
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First Line Centre
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I like and support Treliving. Outside of a few UFA signings and a bad trade or two he has been mostly good.
Bringing Ward back was extremely puzzling and didn’t make sense to me.
I wasn’t sure coaching was the problem earlier in the year but watching more you can’t help but realize they aren’t generating enough high danger offensive opportunities and give the puck away to the opposition far to easily and often. They are dumping the puck when they don’t have anyone in a good position for retrieval, they pass and skate around the perimeter and lose it by shooting into blocked lanes or by being boxed out and losing possession. They aren’t moving the puck around and creating space with creativity or quickness and speed.
It’s painful to watch.
I dunno for sure what the answer is but I just hope something is done to make a change and spark the team.
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