03-09-2021, 02:54 PM
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#8841
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by DiracSpike
lol you know you’re really reaching when you’re tossing in subjective standards like “quality of life” and “access to services” to try and somehow argue that there isn’t a massive tax difference between different jurisdictions. The fact is you keep a lot more of your money in Arizona over Toronto. The fact is you’re paying 53% of your income to taxes in Toronto, and 41% in Arizona. If you’re Matthews making 10 mil a year that’s a difference of 1.2 million per year in taxes. So no, you’re wrong, it’s millions of dollars over a contract term difference. But I’m sure people are desperate to pay more to live in buffalo or Chicago because of infrastructure differences...
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Except it isn't a single back of napkin calculation like that.
For one thing AFAIK players have to file in [nearly?] every jurisdicition they play (which is likely advantageous in the sense that they are spreading income ~20 different places at the lowest brackets). So in TOR or OTT, you're probably filing ~44/82 of your income in ON.
Conversely, a NAS player may only be able to file ~41/82 of their income there...so whatever silly/cursory calculation of the delta between jurisdictions needs to be cut in half.
Of course, this is all before getting into the wide array of simple & creative methods to reduce tax burdens. So the final difference gets close to negligible, depending on individual priorities/preferences.
A huge benefit to playing in a hockey crazed market is endorsement (and other business) opportunities. While not that lucrative for most players, that income can be sheltered/invested in a professional corporation and not drawn as personal income until a player retires
In the long run it can all come pretty close to a wash, or there can be a substantial (but not earth-shattering) difference depending on individual circumstances.
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03-09-2021, 03:43 PM
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#8842
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
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From Friedman's 31 thoughts:
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6. In Calgary’s search for right-handed shooters, there were conversations with Nashville, but, obviously, nothing happened.
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03-09-2021, 03:45 PM
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#8843
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Thinking it was for Viktor Arvidsson. He would be nice add.
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03-09-2021, 03:47 PM
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#8844
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by JurassicTunga12
Thinking it was for Viktor Arvidsson. He would be nice add.
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To me, it would have been about Forsberg and if anything can be done there.
If Treliving is out there targeting more mushy middle-6 wingers, I can't say I really agree. The problem with this roster lays at the top of the roster, not in the middle of the roster in my eyes.
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03-09-2021, 03:56 PM
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#8845
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Tolvanen would be a decent risk/reward trade.
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03-09-2021, 04:04 PM
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#8846
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Franchise Player
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I would do Tkachuk for Forsberg.
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03-09-2021, 04:05 PM
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#8847
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Indiana
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Arvidsson still has 3 years left at 4.250 mill.
Forsberg has one year at 6 mill.
Arvidsson is a year older, despite being drafted 2 years later.
I think Nashville would rather keep Arvidsson because of his contract. But he's also having a down year, and apparently they're listening on offers for almost everyone.
I would be happy with either of them and I like Swedes.
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03-09-2021, 04:08 PM
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#8848
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ComixZone
To me, it would have been about Forsberg and if anything can be done there.
If Treliving is out there targeting more mushy middle-6 wingers, I can't say I really agree. The problem with this roster lays at the top of the roster, not in the middle of the roster in my eyes.
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I don't disagree. Forsberg is one of my biggest wishes for this team. I just don't really see Forsberg actually getting traded even though NSH didn't include him in their 'untouchables', unless of course you give up something that hurts.
edit: didn't realize he had 1yr left
Last edited by JurassicTunga12; 03-09-2021 at 04:12 PM.
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03-09-2021, 04:08 PM
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#8849
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
I would do Tkachuk for Forsberg.
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That's bonkers. Forsberg is a year away from UFA.
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03-09-2021, 04:15 PM
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#8850
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheScorpion
That's bonkers. Forsberg is a year away from UFA.
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and Tkachuk is 2, with a $9M pricetag looming on the one before it
in that regard they are pretty even - he difference is in their age, where Tkachuk is 3 years younger
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03-09-2021, 04:15 PM
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#8851
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Resident Videologist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheScorpion
That's bonkers. Forsberg is a year away from UFA.
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Technically if Tkachuk wants he'll be a UFA in 2 years if he just accepts the 1 year qualifying offer, no?
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03-09-2021, 04:15 PM
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#8852
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Strathmore
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheScorpion
That's bonkers. Forsberg is a year away from UFA.
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But he is WAY better than Tkachuk.
He is not worth his current contract at the moment (IMO), much less $9 mil.
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03-09-2021, 04:21 PM
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#8853
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Franchise Player
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There's always discussions that never lead anywhere.
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03-09-2021, 05:13 PM
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#8854
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wired
But he is WAY better than Tkachuk.
He is not worth his current contract at the moment (IMO), much less $9 mil.
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based on what exactly? He has a couple more points this season but less in the last two. Tkachuk is younger and has a higher PPG in his career.
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03-09-2021, 05:49 PM
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#8855
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wired
But he is WAY better than Tkachuk.
He is not worth his current contract at the moment (IMO), much less $9 mil.
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He's having an off year (on an off team) and still has 21P in 26gp.
I'm fine with trading him for someone young and cost controlled, but I'd much sooner move Johnny and turn the page on this roster.
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03-09-2021, 05:51 PM
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#8856
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Lifetime Suspension
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Huge fan of both arvidsson and forsberg.
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03-09-2021, 05:54 PM
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#8857
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Franchise Player
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the simple fact of the matter is the Flames need a RW
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03-09-2021, 05:57 PM
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#8858
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First Line Centre
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Forsberg or Mantha would be a pipe dream at this point but would instantly make our top6 better.
Both would come at a significant cost however, and likely take assets we shouldn’t burn on this core any more.
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03-09-2021, 06:07 PM
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#8859
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Franchise Player
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Forsberg is the most overrated player on this site.
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03-09-2021, 06:13 PM
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#8860
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Seattle, WA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bonded
Forsberg is the most overrated player on this site.
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Your spelled Bennett wrong.
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