12-30-2018, 05:37 PM
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#1261
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Boo-urns to a banner day in Manchester.
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12-31-2018, 07:21 AM
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#1262
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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In case anyone thought that Salah was the divingest diver that ever dived, those last few weren't dives because the ref gave the penalty. That's the position of Klopp, and apparently Liverpool doesn't have players who dive?
https://www.skysports.com/football/n...penalty-debate
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12-31-2018, 07:32 AM
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#1263
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Barnet - North London
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Slava
In case anyone thought that Salah was the divingest diver that ever dived, those last few weren't dives because the ref gave the penalty. That's the position of Klopp, and apparently Liverpool doesn't have players who dive?
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Klopp is full of #### on this one.
But let’s face it, all of our teams have players that dive. In soccer, it doesn’t matter how much you embarrass yourself as long as you win.
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01-01-2019, 10:58 AM
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#1264
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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I know it’s Cardiff, but good lord they look disjointed. I have no idea what they’re doing back there, and seemingly neither do they!
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01-01-2019, 02:04 PM
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#1265
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Slava
I know it’s Cardiff, but good lord they look disjointed. I have no idea what they’re doing back there, and seemingly neither do they!
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At least we're all on the same page...
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01-02-2019, 08:32 AM
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#1266
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Maryland State House, Annapolis
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Pulisic to Chelsea for £57.6 million, move happens in the summer. Maybe it's me but that seems like a hefty overpayment, I realize you have to factor in the US commercial side of things, but he was benched by Sancho. Decent indicator that Hazard is off in the summer though.
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01-02-2019, 08:44 AM
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#1267
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Austria, NOT Australia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis
Pulisic to Chelsea for £57.6 million, move happens in the summer. Maybe it's me but that seems like a hefty overpayment, I realize you have to factor in the US commercial side of things, but he was benched by Sancho. Decent indicator that Hazard is off in the summer though.
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it is a hefty overpayment, yeah. Pulisic has been pretty bad for a while, fans think he has checked out mentally. Dortmund will probably replace him with the cheaper and better Thorgan Hazard ... great business by them.
Chelsea buying Pulisic for a lot of money and shipping off Hudson-Odoi would be typical for the PL heavyweights. They never learn.
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01-02-2019, 09:34 AM
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#1268
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: East London
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They could also be overpaying due to their current inability to provide CL football.
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01-02-2019, 10:43 AM
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#1269
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Thats a shame. I think the kid is good but Chelsea is largely where careers go to die.
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01-02-2019, 12:04 PM
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#1270
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by devo22
Chelsea buying Pulisic for a lot of money and shipping off Hudson-Odoi would be typical for the PL heavyweights. They never learn.
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I would be so pissed at this.
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01-02-2019, 12:25 PM
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#1271
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Maybe it's a prelude to Hazard going to Real this summer as well?
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01-02-2019, 12:55 PM
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#1272
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Austria, NOT Australia
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Originally Posted by nixon45
I would be so pissed at this.
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as you should be. The aim of a great youth set-up shouldn't be to ship talents off as soon as they are old enough to break through. Especially City and Chelsea have had fantastic youth set-ups over the past years, but they squander a lot of potential by not giving the youngsters a chance. One might think that cases like Sancho would finally make them change, but ...
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01-02-2019, 01:07 PM
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#1273
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Slava
Maybe it's a prelude to Hazard going to Real this summer as well?
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Man I really hope this isn't the case but I totally understand if it is his dream to play at RM and makes the move.
I just wish he wouldn't contradict himself so much with the media.. It's always "I love Chelsea and want to be a Chelsea legend but....."
I get he is in a tough spot where he doesn't want to say too much but its a roller coaster as a Blues supporter to see various quotes from him every week.
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01-02-2019, 01:08 PM
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#1274
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Maryland State House, Annapolis
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Well City apparently have a buyback on Sancho so we'll see if he eventually comes back. After what happened with Pogba I think that there will be more and more of those buyback types of deals, they function as basically a high cost insurance policy if the player actually becomes great. So if Hudson-Odoi is sold I would guess it would have a buyback in it.
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01-02-2019, 01:11 PM
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#1275
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Austria, NOT Australia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis
Well City apparently have a buyback on Sancho so we'll see if he eventually comes back.
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nah they "only" have first refusal and a 15 percent sell-on clause.
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01-02-2019, 01:16 PM
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#1276
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Quote:
Originally Posted by devo22
as you should be. The aim of a great youth set-up shouldn't be to ship talents off as soon as they are old enough to break through. Especially City and Chelsea have had fantastic youth set-ups over the past years, but they squander a lot of potential by not giving the youngsters a chance. One might think that cases like Sancho would finally make them change, but ...
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How many times have Chelsea had great talents that they squandered.
Salah, KDB and Lukaku spring to mind immediately. Maybe even Sturridge at one point.
But you're right. What is the point of these elaborate Academy setups if the kids never get a chance?
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01-02-2019, 01:17 PM
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#1277
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Maryland State House, Annapolis
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^^Yeah that makes way more sense for the buying club instead of a flat fee. Still offers protection to the selling club, but obviously at an unknown rate.
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01-02-2019, 01:19 PM
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#1278
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Maryland State House, Annapolis
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Locke
How many times have Chelsea had great talents that they squandered.
Salah, KDB and Lukaku spring to mind immediately. Maybe even Sturridge at one point.
But you're right. What is the point of these elaborate Academy setups if the kids never get a chance?
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£££££. I think City have made almost £70 million selling academy products. The ROI on that has to be pretty impressive.
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01-02-2019, 01:22 PM
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#1279
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Austria, NOT Australia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Locke
How many times have Chelsea had great talents that they squandered.
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they've won the FA Youth Cup 7 times in the last 9 years (including 5 times in a row) and have been U18 champions twice in a row now. Also UEFA Youth League winners in 2015 and 2016 as well as runners-up in 2018. Their youth teams have been fantastic for many years now.
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01-02-2019, 01:28 PM
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#1280
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Locke
How many times have Chelsea had great talents that they squandered.
Salah, KDB and Lukaku spring to mind immediately. Maybe even Sturridge at one point.
But you're right. What is the point of these elaborate Academy setups if the kids never get a chance?
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Who are we kidding? The main point of that setup is to prevent these players from going to your rivals. City has the same thing going on. Apparently (and you never know with all the ITK floating around) Spurs wanted him and he was good with that move, but of course City sold him to Dortmund instead.
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