09-25-2020, 07:17 PM
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#901
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Monahammer
Yes but Brodeur was the other goalie taken in the 1st round that year, so that's more of a whiff on our end
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Let's also not forget Brodeur was drafted with the Flames 1st round pick, which Calgary used to trade up in order to select Kidd
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09-28-2020, 09:38 AM
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#902
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AustinL_NHL
Let's also not forget Brodeur was drafted with the Flames 1st round pick, which Calgary used to trade up in order to select Kidd
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No, let’s forget that.
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09-28-2020, 11:44 AM
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#903
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
Let's be clear though that at the time, Kidd was the clear and consensus #1 goalie. The Flames didn't go "off board" or do something unexpected by taking him over Brodeur or Potvin. Kidd was the "next franchise goalie" in that draft. Speaks to the challenge of projecting goalies - but I disagree with the notion that this was a Flames error.
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Fair. Then ~20 years later they skipped the consensus top goalie and went with Mason Macdonald (over demko)...
It's a crap shoot, yet one that some organizations have been fine at, but that the flames are dangerously pathetic at.
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09-28-2020, 12:38 PM
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#904
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bubbsy
Fair. Then ~20 years later they skipped the consensus top goalie and went with Mason Macdonald (over demko)...
It's a crap shoot, yet one that some organizations have been fine at, but that the flames are dangerously pathetic at.
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If it was just luck then we would have hit on something by now. We have legit never hit on a goalie prospect.
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09-28-2020, 12:45 PM
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#905
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2016
Location: ATCO Field, Section 201
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Helge Grans (D) is a player I would love to see slip down into the Flames range in the second round. I've seen him ranked as high as 28 and as low as 69. Either way he is 6.3 a right shot and apparent an excellent skater. His defensive numbers aren't great. Bonus point for getting coached by Andersson's dad.
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09-28-2020, 12:51 PM
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#906
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Resident Videologist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Monahammer
If it was just luck then we would have hit on something by now. We have legit never hit on a goalie prospect.
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Never? Why doesn't Vernon count?
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09-28-2020, 01:02 PM
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#907
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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09-28-2020, 01:09 PM
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#908
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Vinny01
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draft a franchise goalie sets your foundation for next 15-20 years. Devils know that as well as anyone
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09-28-2020, 01:18 PM
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#909
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Lmao, and I get chided for saying Ottawa would take Askarov 2 spots higher at 5.
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09-28-2020, 01:26 PM
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#910
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Franchise Player
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Askarov may not even make it to 7. On 31 Thoughts, they were speculating that at 5th Overall Ottawa may be looking at Askarov, Quinn, or Sanderson.
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09-28-2020, 01:27 PM
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#911
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Monahammer
If it was just luck then we would have hit on something by now. We have legit never hit on a goalie prospect.
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Craig Anderson played over 600 games in the NHL...
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If this day gets you riled up, you obviously aren't numb to the disappointment yet to be a real fan.
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09-28-2020, 01:33 PM
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#912
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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How big would Stutzle/Byfield and Askarov be for a scorched earth rebuild? That'd be massive. Two major anchors at key positions in a proper foundation build. Yup. Let's behonest, the Sens have some great Defensemen already in their system, they need that center and need a rock solid goaltender in the coming years. They'd do well to take Askarov. If they don't then they'll get another great player but end of the day, there's something to be said about snagging big core pieces in different positions like they have a chance to.
Last edited by dammage79; 09-28-2020 at 02:15 PM.
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09-28-2020, 01:36 PM
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#913
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CliffFletcher
Craig Anderson played over 600 games in the NHL...
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We never signed Craig Anderson, so I'd say you can't consider it a "hit".
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09-28-2020, 01:58 PM
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#914
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: NYYC
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Trading away Giguère didn't help the cause either.
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09-28-2020, 02:14 PM
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#915
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Barthelona
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I'd be curious if this year's draft is going to be a little more of a toss-up after the first top 10 protects, after covid has presumably reduced teams' ability to scout players. I can't remember, was there even a combine this year? Are teams doing pre-draft interviews over zoom?
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Originally Posted by snipetype
k im just not going to respond to your #### anymore because i have better things to do like #### my model girlfriend rather then try to convince people like you of commonly held hockey knowledge.
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09-28-2020, 06:06 PM
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#916
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ComixZone
We never signed Craig Anderson, so I'd say you can't consider it a "hit".
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[insert That’s the Joke gif]
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Originally Posted by fotze
If this day gets you riled up, you obviously aren't numb to the disappointment yet to be a real fan.
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09-28-2020, 06:09 PM
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#917
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mass_nerder
I'd be curious if this year's draft is going to be a little more of a toss-up after the first top 10 protects, after covid has presumably reduced teams' ability to scout players. I can't remember, was there even a combine this year? Are teams doing pre-draft interviews over zoom?
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Most of the scouting has been youtube this year on top of Zoom interviews. This year I can definitely see a Topsy turvey 1st round. Crumple the list and chuck it out the window.
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09-28-2020, 06:15 PM
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#918
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Van Island
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mass_nerder
I'd be curious if this year's draft is going to be a little more of a toss-up after the first top 10 protects, after covid has presumably reduced teams' ability to scout players. I can't remember, was there even a combine this year? Are teams doing pre-draft interviews over zoom?
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Other than Arizona’s private combine, no I don’t believe so.
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09-28-2020, 06:23 PM
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#919
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Calgary
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I wouldn't be surprised to see Askarov go at #2. It's not common to see goalies drafted that early anymore, but if you can draft your franchise, cornerstone goalie-why not? I can't see him supplanting Lafreniere, but I could see the possibility (although very slight) of Askarov going ahead of Byfield and Stutzle.
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09-29-2020, 07:50 AM
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#920
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mass_nerder
I'd be curious if this year's draft is going to be a little more of a toss-up after the first top 10 protects, after covid has presumably reduced teams' ability to scout players. I can't remember, was there even a combine this year? Are teams doing pre-draft interviews over zoom?
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I expect steals for sure
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