Ring Road To Nowhere

[pepper24]

Originally Posted by Hes

McDonalds was never opened in Lakeview. So she must have been successful.

That's too bad. When I use Lakeview as a U-Turn route when the Crowchild to Glenmore overpass is backed up it would be great to get some fast food.

[Stealth22]

Have they started on construction of the west ring road?

There's a bunch of construction going on just south of Highway 1, going up the hill.

And no, I don't mean the climbing centre, these vehicles are literally halfway up the hill going south. It looks like they're setting up the path for the ring road.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Stealth22

Have they started on construction of the west ring road?

There's a bunch of construction going on just south of Highway 1, going up the hill.

And no, I don't mean the climbing centre, these vehicles are literally halfway up the hill going south. It looks like they're setting up the path for the ring road.

Pipeline replacement.

[Stealth22]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Pipeline replacement.

Boo. I was hoping for ring road.

[Fuzz]

Ya...gonna be awhile for that leg.

[Canehdianman]

I'm not sure it was wise of the City to lower the speed limit on Glenmore from 37th to Sarcee to 60 before any construction starts.

Having driven through it a few times now, it's just going to encourage people to ignore the signs. Which sets a bad precedent when construction actually does start.

[Weitz]

Originally Posted by Canehdianman

I'm not sure it was wise of the City to lower the speed limit on Glenmore from 37th to Sarcee to 60 before any construction starts.

Having driven through it a few times now, it's just going to encourage people to ignore the signs. Which sets a bad precedent when construction actually does start.

All construction in Alberta is done in a way that encourages people to ignore the "slow down" signs and lower limits. Its brutal.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by Stealth22

Have they started on construction of the west ring road?

There's a bunch of construction going on just south of Highway 1, going up the hill.

And no, I don't mean the climbing centre, these vehicles are literally halfway up the hill going south. It looks like they're setting up the path for the ring road.

Based on the updates, it appears they are heavy into the pile driving for the bridge structures at the moment.

Based on the look of the work at Macleod and Deerfoot, I don't imagine they are too far away from raising the beams for the second bridge.

[Fuzz]

That's not where he is asking about though. This is the project on the hill:

http://www.atcopipelines.com/upr/Pro...Y_Brochure.pdf

[Resolute 14]

He asked if they had started construction on SWRR, that is what I answered. He further asked about a specific area and if that was related, which you guys answered.

[Ducay]

^pedantic, but he did indeed ask about the WEST ring road, separate project to the South-West ring road currently under construction you mentioned.


Could be the giant gravel pit for the SW RR that is located on the West RR right of way, and thus, looks like giant earthworks at the top of the hill.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by Huntingwhale

Combined with the fact that Anderson and Southland will all be connected, I don't think 90th will be too busy other then the people who live there. Right now, everyone in that area is forced to use 14th street. The fact that it bottlenecks right at 90th makes it even worse.

You know part of the project is a major new office and retail complex on the Tsuu T'ina land just west of 90th, right? 90th will be the main east-west route for a whole lotta people heading to that complex and points west. Just as loads of people today cut down 90th now rather than go further south to Southland.

The ring road will lighten traffic on 14th street, though not as much as people think - it will still be the most direct way downtown for most of the SW. The fact you have a huge obstacle in the reservoir means that part of the city will always face bottlenecks.

I understand it's a necessary project. But as someone who lives near the west end of Southland drive, the increased traffic and paving over of much of the green space and the off-leash in the area means the ring road will definitely decrease my quality of life.

[Stealth22]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

That's not where he is asking about though. This is the project on the hill:

http://www.atcopipelines.com/upr/Pro...Y_Brochure.pdf

Originally Posted by Ducay

^pedantic, but he did indeed ask about the WEST ring road, separate project to the South-West ring road currently under construction you mentioned.

Correct, I was asking about the 'north' leg of the new W/SW ring road, from Hwy 1 to Glenmore/Hwy 8. I was curious because I thought they were doing the SW portion first, which they are.

In fact, the portion that's on Tsuut'ina land is their only real priority in the short term, because they're contractually obligated to finish it (lol...if they're ever able to finish it) if they don't want to lose the land.

But yes, it appears that Fuzz is correct...there's been some work happening north of Hwy 1 in the same spot, so it matches up with the map in ATCO's document.

Sigh...by the time we get a complete ring road, I'll probably be retired.

[Resolute 14]

Ahh. I assumed it was common knowledge that the Hwy1 to Hwy8 leg is in limbo, so assumed you meant SWRR.

[Nancy]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

Ahh. I assumed it was common knowledge that the Hwy1 to Hwy8 leg is in limbo, so assumed you meant SWRR.

There are a lot of people who think the construction on the west leg has already started... Between the gravel pit, the gravel haul road, and the pipeline work, it is easy to be confused.

[Lubicon]

Originally Posted by Canehdianman

I'm not sure it was wise of the City to lower the speed limit on Glenmore from 37th to Sarcee to 60 before any construction starts.

Having driven through it a few times now, it's just going to encourage people to ignore the signs. Which sets a bad precedent when construction actually does start.

Could not agree more. Driving that stretch of road daily as part of my commute I already see a majority of people ignoring the lower speed limit. This morning I was doing 65-70 (yes I know) and people were blowing by me one after the other. Afternoons are not as bad as the road is already slow due to congestion.

[Resolute 14]

It's even better on Glenmore at Ogden. People are flying through the 50 zone at 80+, even though there are workers on the road. I'm honestly flabbergasted at how little police enforcement is done there. It's a ticketing goldmine.

[Weitz]

Construction zone implementation in Alberta needs to be overhauled.

I was a fan of the Highway 2 work going on where they put up the barriers and only dropped the limit to 100. Thats great.

Not taking down the lowered limit signs when no one is working and having far too long of construction zones than what is needed really makes people speed and not care about the zones.

[Lubicon]

Originally Posted by Weitz

Construction zone implementation in Alberta needs to be overhauled.

I was a fan of the Highway 2 work going on where they put up the barriers and only dropped the limit to 100. Thats great.

Not taking down the lowered limit signs when no one is working and having far too long of construction zones than what is needed really makes people speed and not care about the zones.

They did the same thing on NS Stoney when they added new lanes last year and it makes a world of difference. Workers are better protected and speed limits can be set higher than would be required without the barriers. And in my experience on both Stoney and QE2 where they are doing this people seem to be more willing to follow the speed limit so it works for everyone.

[Northendzone]

had to laugh the other night as I took stoney southbound from McKnight towards 114 av SE. There is a stretch on both sides, where the speed limit is reduced for some reason, and on the northbound side CPS had their lights on and someone pulled over, meanwhile I could see that there was a police car in the same situation further ahead on the southbound side as well - I reduced my speed to 90 but I get passed by some guy who goes racing by the police car in the southbound lane who has someone pulled over and then a second police car emerges on the southbound lanes with it's lights flashing to pull over the speeding southbound driver who passed me.