ECQF: Boston Bruins [ATL2] vs Toronto Maple Leafs [ATL3] - Boston wins 4-3

[dino7c]

You better get more than a first for Marner

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by butterfly

Give up Weegar to get out of the Huberdeau disaster, get Marner, and probably get a 1st at the deadline? The rebuild would be over and we'd be on the upswing.

Rebuild over after 1 draft?

It's going to take some time to get this turned around.

[SuperMatt18]

I highly doubt Marner is accepting a trade to the Flames, no matter what else is in the package.

But if he did waive I think the package I think would be closest would be something like:

Kadri/Markstrom + Andersson for Marner + Liljegren

Pretty much close to flat cap in either of those scenarios.

[curves2000]

Pure speculation but I think Mathews is suffering from Norovirus as there appears to be a significant outbreak in Toronto.

https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/norovirus...nada-1.6863382

I have had this before and let me tell you, it's not remotely fun. The level of fluid and food that leaves your body in a violent fashion is jaw dropping. You wonder if your going to make it and wonder where all this fluid and solid food is coming from because you haven't consumed it.

If you are not on top of your electrolytes and hydration, it can lead to hospitalization and more. Pure speculation but I can see the Dr's pulling him for fear of a cardiac event due to physical demands and stress on the body.

[Shazam]

Has he tried Brawndo? I heard it's got what plants crave.

[butterfly]

Sharks missed the playoffs 6 times in their first 27 seasons without the sweetheart expansion draft rules. Flames missed 15 times in the same era.

This is the first rebuild they've ever had.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by butterfly

Sharks missed the playoffs 6 times in their first 27 seasons without the sweetheart expansion draft rules. Flames missed 15 times in the same era.

This is the first rebuild they've ever had.

Did cleanse your timeline from 1996-2003?

[butterfly]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Did cleanse your timeline from 1996-2003?

I was talking about San Jose, not Calgary.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by butterfly

Give up Weegar to get out of the Huberdeau disaster, get Marner, and probably get a 1st at the deadline? The rebuild would be over and we'd be on the upswing.

Mitch is at what 10.5 million heading into free agency at the end of next year, and is probably going to want a hefty raise. Is he really the player that you want to bank on to get you a mega return on a huge contract? I know I don't, at the end of the day, he's great in the regular season, a secondary guy in the playoffs, and your going to end up eating a chunk of his contract to move him.

[butterfly]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Mitch is at what 10.5 million heading into free agency at the end of next year, and is probably going to want a hefty raise. Is he really the player that you want to bank on to get you a mega return on a huge contract? I know I don't, at the end of the day, he's great in the regular season, a secondary guy in the playoffs, and your going to end up eating a chunk of his contract to move him.

Sure, $5.415 cap retained, traded 2/3 of the way through the season, and all Marner's money comes from signing bonuses. He makes league minimum salary. Teams would be interested, although it's just an academic argument since I doubt he'd waive for the Flames.

I'd buy a 1st for $7.25M.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by butterfly

Sure, $5.415 cap retained, traded 2/3 of the way through the season, and all Marner's money comes from signing bonuses. He makes league minimum salary. Teams would be interested, although it's just an academic argument since I doubt he'd waive for the Flames.

I'd buy a 1st for $7.25M.

Draft picks have been traded for money in the NBA, mostly 2nd round picks.

Not sure if its allowed in the NHL.

[butterfly]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Draft picks have been traded for money in the NBA, mostly 2nd round picks.

Not sure if its allowed in the NHL.

Indirectly. Pay the signing bonus knowing you’re going nowhere, then ship off a good player to a team who’s willing to give up the pick.

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by curves2000

Pure speculation but I think Mathews is suffering from Norovirus as there appears to be a significant outbreak in Toronto.

https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/norovirus...nada-1.6863382

I have had this before and let me tell you, it's not remotely fun. The level of fluid and food that leaves your body in a violent fashion is jaw dropping. You wonder if your going to make it and wonder where all this fluid and solid food is coming from because you haven't consumed it.

If you are not on top of your electrolytes and hydration, it can lead to hospitalization and more. Pure speculation but I can see the Dr's pulling him for fear of a cardiac event due to physical demands and stress on the body.

Maybe undiagnosed but if he has a diagnosed case of Norovirus I doubt he would have been around the team as that is highly contagious and could easily take out additional players.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by butterfly

$117.25M in savings for players in their 30s, on retirement contracts, and probably get a 1st for Marner at the deadline, you'd seriously say no?

All day. You trade a guy who wants to be part of the solution and worth more than a 1st on his own and a goalie that can also fetch a 1st on his own for a player you are going to flip for a 1st? That would be an epic way to sewer this franchise.

[butterfly]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

All day. You trade a guy who wants to be part of the solution and worth more than a 1st on his own and a goalie that can also fetch a 1st on his own for a player you are going to flip for a 1st? That would be an epic way to sewer this franchise.

The offer was Huberdeau and Weegar for Marner. No goalies.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Markstrom is not getting us a 1st and player.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by butterfly

The offer was Huberdeau and Weegar for Marner. No goalies.

No it wasn't, go back and read the post I responded to.

[butterfly]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

No it wasn't, go back and read the post I responded to.

Mine?

[butterfly]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Markstrom is not getting us a 1st and player.

Oh don’tcha know he’s worth at least Mercer and a 1st, market value! Nobody will offer that cause they aren’t dumb enough, but that’s what he’s worth!

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by butterfly

Mine?

No, I had quoted traptor's post and was responding to what he said. Nothing in his post referenced Huberdeau.