Official expansion protection lists revealed at 8:30AM MT

[Southside]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

It's actually looking like Vegas may be better than both the canucks and the yotes.

Looking at the available players, i wouldn't be shocked if they finish ahead of both those teams in the standings next year.

Canucks protect both of Baertschi and Granlund. They would have been exposed if still Flames.

[Par]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Not necessarily.

First of all, Vegas can't afford to keep all those goalies - they may pick them and then trade them, but they can't hold 4 NHL goalies into the season. And they can't send any of them to the AHL because they wouldn't clear waivers.

Second, they still have no goalie prospects.

Right now (and assuming they sign Johnson, or an equivalent backup), the Flames' goaltending depth is:

Smith
Johnson
Gillies
Rittich
Parsons (maybe the best goalie prospect on the planet)
MacDonald

They will have Gillies and (likely) Rittich playing in the AHL, and they will (likely) have Parsons playing in the ECHL.

Vegas has nothing like that, and won't for at least 3 years.

Unless... they trade a couple of the guys you listed for prospects. How about a post expansion trade of Grubrauer for Gillies - would both teams do that? Vegas will need some prospects for their organizational depth.

They likely not keep all of them but they may keep Fleury or Mrzaek plus a crap load of picks.

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

It's funny how none of the 7 Canadian teams really exposed any good players.

There are some good players exposed but not of significant value, the Canadian teams have not been good for the last 3-4 years, so not surprising.

Originally Posted by Geeoff

Ottawa exposed Marc Methot.

They may cut a deal with Vegas.

[sureLoss]

Cap friendly's expansion draft tool now has all the official protection lists loaded (but none of the rumored side deals)

have fun:
https://www.capfriendly.com/expansion-draft

[tvp2003]

Surprised to see Luongo was not protected. Then I saw that he's under contract until 2021/22

Those last few years are cheap (compared to the cap hit) so he might be valuable for a budget team wanting to hit the floor... future starter in Arizona?

[Geeoff]

Most shocking thing out of this: PL3 still has an NHL contract

[tvp2003]

Originally Posted by Anduril

Damn Comeau was protected? Avs what are you doing.

Sucks to be Joe Colborne when Blake Comeau is protected and you're not.

[puffnstuff]

STL protected Reaves? Head scratcher or something I am missing?

[Par]

The funny thing with the Islanders is that, Vegas can get the 1st round pick and De Haan.

[GranteedEV]

Looking over the protected lists am surprised how many teams went 8 skaters over 7-3-1

[Machiavelli]

Who I'd take for Vegas (I have no idea about contract status or cap hits for the majority of these players, so not sure if this list meets those requirements. Also this assumes no deals to protect certain players, which we know will happen). I didn't use the tool that sureloss just posted.

Brouwer (F)
Burmistrov (F)
Soderberg (F)
Gagner (F)
Sharp (F)
Marchessault (F)
Gaborik (F)
Plekanec (F)
Neal (F)
Cammalleri (F)
Bailey (F)
Grabner (F)
Thornton (F)
Perron (F)
Conacher (F)
Lupul (F)
Oshie (F)

Dumba (D)
Bogosian (D)
Russell (D)
Oduya (D)
Methot (D)
Del Zotto (D)
Daley (D)
Sbisa (D)
Enstrom (D)

Bernier (G)
Subban (G)
Ward (G)
Mrazek (G)


That's not the worst team ever

[expatflame]

Dumb question but does LV have to take a player from each team?

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by expatflame

Dumb question but does LV have to take a player from each team?

Yes

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

Looking over the protected lists am surprised how many teams went 8 skaters over 7-3-1

Further proof that in general top 4 dmen are worth more than 2nd/3rd line forwards

[Machiavelli]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

Looking over the protected lists am surprised how many teams went 8 skaters over 7-3-1

I'm not.

Imagine the Preds trying to pick who to expose out of Ekholm, Subban, Josi, and Ellis

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by tvp2003

Surprised to see Luongo was not protected. Then I saw that he's under contract until 2021/22

Those last few years are cheap (compared to the cap hit) so he might be valuable for a budget team wanting to hit the floor... future starter in Arizona?

Any team that acquires Luongo shares in the cap recapture penalties that VAN and FLA face if he retires early do they not? I'm not 100% sure on that but if they do then it's extremely unlikely Luongo ever moves again

[flambers]

Originally Posted by Machiavelli

Who I'd take for Vegas (I have no idea about contract status or cap hits for the majority of these players, so not sure if this list meets those requirements. Also this assumes no deals to protect certain players, which we know will happen). I didn't use the tool that sureloss just posted.

Brouwer (F)
Burmistrov (F)
Soderberg (F)
Gagner (F)
Sharp (F)
Marchessault (F)
Gaborik (F)
Plekanec (F)
Neal (F)
Cammalleri (F)
Bailey (F)
Grabner (F)
Thornton (F)
Perron (F)
Conacher (F)
Lupul (F)
Oshie (F)

I would think older players like Joe Thornton would be of no interest unless another NHL team approaches Vegas with a trade offer...

Vegas I would think will also draft a mix of older and young players

[icecube]

Originally Posted by Machiavelli

Who I'd take for Vegas (I have no idea about contract status or cap hits for the majority of these players, so not sure if this list meets those requirements. Also this assumes no deals to protect certain players, which we know will happen). I didn't use the tool that sureloss just posted.

Brouwer (F)
Burmistrov (F)
Soderberg (F)
Gagner (F)
Sharp (F)
Marchessault (F)
Gaborik (F)
Plekanec (F)
Neal (F)
Cammalleri (F)
Bailey (F)
Grabner (F)
Thornton (F)
Perron (F)
Conacher (F)
Lupul (F)
Oshie (F)

Dumba (D)
Bogosian (D)
Russell (D)
Oduya (D)
Methot (D)
Del Zotto (D)
Daley (D)
Sbisa (D)
Enstrom (D)

Bernier (G)
Subban (G)
Ward (G)
Mrazek (G)


That's not the worst team ever

I think you'd be waaay over the salary cap and still not a contender.

[TheFlamesVan]

Just doing a quick run through of that tool and I think they end up with something like these 5 goalies (to do with what they please): Fleury, Raanta, Pickard, Korpisalo & Broissoit (don't see much appeal from the Oiler list).

This is assuming Arizona has a deal to protect Domingue

[You Need a Thneed]

Originally Posted by expatflame

Dumb question but does LV have to take a player from each team?

Yes. But as soon as a player is picked, Vegas could trade player back to their original team.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by keratosis

Don't they have to stock their farm teams as well, or is that separate?

I don't believe that VGK has their own AHL affiliate. They will likely need to loan players to other AHL teams to find places for them this year and maybe next year as well.