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Jay Random · 10-13-2017, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by CroFlames

This is news to me. Go on?

Textcritic was talking about it in another thread:

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I crunched some numbers, and like I suspected shot totals are up by a MASSIVE margin this season—for whatever reason. Through the first 51 games last year there were 23 teams who tallied +35 SOG (22.5%), and 6 games in which that total crested 40 (5.8%). But this year so far through 50 games, teams have fired +35 SOG 43 times (43% = +20.5%), and 23(!) times that number has been over 40 (23% = +17.2%). Last year there were a total of 5 games in which one team managed +50 SOG, and just a mere week into the season that has already happened once.

He also mentioned that the average number of SOG in games this year has gone up to 34.5 per team.

In the same thread, undercoverbrother explained:

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I heard GG on the radio and he was saying that the league has changed the criteria for "shots on goal". If the puck has any chance of going in it is consider a shot, the example was the puck coming in and the goalie playing it with his stick. Previously these would not be shots, not they are because is the goalie wasn't there the puck could have gone in.

The idea, apparently, is to take the subjectivity out of counting shots, so that the statistics will be collected in exactly the same way in every arena. The effect of all this is to increase the official number of SOG by at least 10% – which means that a goalie who typically had a .920 save percentage under the old standard probably has at least a .930 with the new one.

CroFlames · 10-13-2017, 09:07 AM

Interesting. No press coverage of that, which is kind of a big deal.

If they are officially changing how they count shots, I would have expected all the news outlets to have pieces out on that and the pundits talking.

Jay Random · 10-13-2017, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by CroFlames

Interesting. No press coverage of that, which is kind of a big deal.

If they are officially changing how they count shots, I would have expected all the news outlets to have pieces out on that and the pundits talking.

That would require the news media to employ people who can actually count.

jaikorven · 10-13-2017, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by CroFlames

Interesting. No press coverage of that, which is kind of a big deal.

If they are officially changing how they count shots, I would have expected all the news outlets to have pieces out on that and the pundits talking.

Also the changes it could make to the goaltending records of past. I thought it was weird to not have it in open discussion with the press as well.

TheOnlyBilko · 10-13-2017, 09:37 AM

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I think it's awesome to see MAF on that list too.

I predict MAF has a better season then the current Penguins goalie

JerryUnderscore · 10-13-2017, 10:14 AM

I thought the definition of a shot was always "if the goalie wasn't there, it would have gone in"? I didn't realize that was a recent change. But I guess that explains why shot totals are up.

So it's not just that the Flames need to work out the kinks in the defence.

topfiverecords · 10-13-2017, 10:56 AM

Talbot .896

Serapth · 10-13-2017, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by jaikorven

Also the changes it could make to the goaltending records of past. I thought it was weird to not have it in open discussion with the press as well.

On the bright side, that ship sailed long ago. There is already zero point comparing a modern goaltender to goaltenders of years gone by on statistical basis. Net size changes, rule changes, equipment changes, mutant human growth changes, all have a huge impact. I remember when Roy was king of the goaltenders (well or Brodeur) with a save percentage hovering around the 0.900 mark. These days that would get you sent to the minors.

One thing this change does is get rid of homer-isms in the shot counting, some arenas were brutal with they way they padded shot stats.

Serapth · 10-13-2017, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by JerryUnderscore

I thought the definition of a shot was always "if the goalie wasn't there, it would have gone in"? I didn't realize that was a recent change. But I guess that explains why shot totals are up.

So it's not just that the Flames need to work out the kinks in the defence.

... although the Flames certainly do have to tighten things up on defense.

Fire · 10-13-2017, 11:11 AM

Anyone else annoyed the NHL decided to change the definition of a shot? Now comparing save %, shooting %, etc to previous years is meaningless unless you do some conversion math beforehand.

Savvy27 · 10-13-2017, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Fire

Anyone else annoyed the NHL decided to change the definition of a shot? Now comparing save %, shooting %, etc to previous years is meaningless unless you do some conversion math beforehand.

I'm not annoyed because the reasoning behind the change makes sense. Some of the shot counters were already counting shots this way, but other were not. So the value of previous stats is questionable and going forward the stats will be more accurate. If anything, people should be annoyed that this wasn't addressed earlier (although actually being annoyed about such a thing is a waste of energy).

Flames Draft Watcher · 10-13-2017, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by CroFlames

This is news to me. Go on?

Apparently the NHL instructed teams to count anything that goes on net as a shot so that shot totals wouldn't be so different in certain buildings. Therefore shots will go up this year in general.

Robbob · 10-13-2017, 11:48 AM

Now they just need to tell the guy in LA it isn't a shot anytime a Kings player just waves his stick at the puck.

FlamesFanTrev · 10-13-2017, 11:52 AM

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It's really fun to see Flower on that list after essentially being cast off in Pittsburgh. Good for him!

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Probably a little satisfaction for MAF not seeing Murray on that list....

JerryUnderscore · 10-13-2017, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Serapth

... although the Flames certainly do have to tighten things up on defense.

That's why I said "it's not just".

BigRed · 10-13-2017, 01:26 PM

Smith has always been one of the big boys. He's a bonafide #1. The difference with him in net is so bloody clear, after years of fill-ins, it's crazy. I just wish he was 3 years younger ...

TheOnlyBilko · 10-14-2017, 03:39 PM

A lil premature this thread it was

ForeverFlameFan · 10-14-2017, 04:38 PM

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A lil premature this thread it was

A little premature to post this after 1 bad game, where the whole team let Smith down.

Finger Cookin · 10-14-2017, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Fire

Anyone else annoyed the NHL decided to change the definition of a shot? Now comparing save %, shooting %, etc to previous years is meaningless unless you do some conversion math beforehand.

I got over assists and then secondary assists being added to scoring stats, I'll get over this.

Also, this thread is inferior to the Mike Frickin' Smith thread.